(05-16-2018, 02:55 AM)xise Wrote: There are definitely green ray distortions; one common one that comes to mind is a green-yellow/orange distortions where you desire to control the ones you love for their own best interest.
This occurs when you love another adult and if they seem to be making bad / harmful choices, then you desire to control them/the situation and control their choices for their own good. You overrride their free will (because obviously they did not wish to listen to your advice) and took matters into your own hands to protect them, because after all, you love them and what's best for them.
This is a contradiction in terms, as pure green ray love is unconditional and freely accepts another adult's decision to make what seems to be a bad choice and takes no action against it (assuming it is not purposely hurting others, at which point you still accept it but you take action out of love for the others that would be hurt). However, the desire to control a loved one so that they do not do what you consider to be self-sabotage is a common green-yellow/orange distortion, seemingly everpresent in our society.
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Please note that things are slightly different when it comes to children (though I don't necessarily agree that a person is a child until they are 18).
I remember being mad at my mother and my friend. telling them things like : ''I'm suffering and just want to escape this intense pain but can't because of you''.
But now that I'm not suicidal anymore. I'm thankful for their lack of acceptance at the time. I actually want to live longer now.. the desire is new to me.
(05-16-2018, 02:21 PM)Agua Wrote: i think a matter delicate and complex as this should be a little more differentiated!
There are different people with different "designs" and most of all different goals!
Some need more guidance some less.
Also, what is perfect for a certain stage of development can be "wrong" for other stages.
detachment would be a great example
Following a (real) guru is an act of surrender, which is a great help for surrendering to the divine!
An outer teacher can save you lots of time.
But i absolutely agree that it is favorable, at least for me, to work with the inner teacher.
My outer teacher on the other hand has probably saved me decades of work and played a crucial part in developing the connection to my inner teacher.
In both cases i would say it is close to impossible to develop past a certain point without a teacher, be it an inner or an outer teacher.
But i guess we agree here.
Then one more but in my experience most crucial point:
please note that i am speaking about people who want to go the "whole distance"!
You cannot do it alone!!
Since spiritual development is closed tied to healing, it has to be said, that when you reach real depths in your inner work, it is impossible to do it alone!
There are crucial experiences that cannot be solved alone!
(they could be solved alone in theory, but working alone you wont even get close to a position where you could do it alone).
This does not mean that you have to do everything in groups.
But someone HAS to be available for those parts where its necessary!
I hope this is understandable at least a bit
I can also further expand on that, if anybody wishes so.
I wish I had a teacher when I was younger. things would turn out differently..
Now I don't require guidance as much as I did once.. my heart guides me.



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