12-10-2010, 09:18 PM
(12-10-2010, 08:49 PM)jivatman Wrote:Quote:i dont think its right to call downflowing energies energy of the adept. its the emanations that are flowing in from everywhere within creation
The crown chakra is the chakra of the totality of self, where one in microcosm is a god.
The root chakra is, as has been explicitly said, where energy comes in from cosmos in macrocosm.
Thus, the energy downflowing from the crown chakra is conscious, of the self, wheras the upflowing is unconscious. In fact, there's another quote even more explicit than the ones I've shown.Quote:73.8 Questioner: Then will you speak of the difference between the spiraling light that enters through the feet and the light invoked through the crown chakra?
Ra: I am Ra. The action of the upward spiraling light drawn by the will to meet the inner light of the One Infinite Creator may be likened to the beating of the heart and the movement of the muscles surrounding the lungs and all the other functions of the parasympathetic nervous system. The calling of the adept may be likened to those nerve and muscle actions over which the mind/body/spirit complex has conscious control.
Thus, even if you do not accept my other logic, that because throat is the primary chakra of spirit, and the function of spirit is to integrate the downpouring and upflowing energy,
There is still the fact above, that downflowing is conscious, upflowing is cnoscious, and the function of spirit is to integrate these two energies, and as wikipedia says, the breath is one of the few bodily functions controlled both consciously and unconsciously.
that bit you have quoted doesnt name in-pouring energies as energies of the adept. it speaks of a calling of the adept, which may be likened to nerve and muscle actions over which the mind/body/spirit complex has conscious control.
these energies are not named as conscious or unconscious (or, in conscious control or not) by the quotes you are given. these are just energies.
the the attractor of the energy is entity and its consciousness. then, since the intersection point of the downpouring and upflowing energies determines an entity's (at that point, probably significator, since an entity which is spiritually apt, but hampered in mind or body for any reason in incarnation may not be able to go up to high chakras) active manifestation point.
spirit, is the existing entity, mind, is a construct of spirit, and body is a creation of mind.
and the manifesting, resulting entity, the significator is the thing which creates and manipulates this energy action according to the point the up and down meet.
thus, i would say that there is no relevance regarding consciousness about/of the upflowing or downpouring energies - they are just energies. but, the consciousness of the entity acting at the intersection point, determines what happens.
in another note, if you remember the matter about the catalysts, it is said that <i>when accepted</i> the catalyst enters from the bottom chakra, and goes up. this accepted situation is curious, meaning that, a catalyst may be accepted or rejected. since the entry happens from the bottom chakra, it means that the entity has control over the aspects of that certain chakra -> it shouldnt be unconscious.