Ali Quadir Wrote:Which is obviously a very wise thing to say! Yet also not very adventurous.
Perhaps, and perhaps not. Funny how the same actions could be considered both wise or foolish depending upon the motivation of the person "doing" and the perspective of the "viewer". There is great freedom to be found by invoking the archetype of the Fool. Having made this "choice", I am free to pursue life as it unfolds, enjoying the spontaneity of each moment, which is providing adventure enough for me.
All this is not to say that I don't have my thoughts and some expectations about what is to come, but I've found that my real interests have evolved more into seeing the underlying fabric of our shared illusion, and how it interacts and interplays with the metaphysical world. Hence my thread, which has fallen into some disrepair of late, exploring he works of Dewey B. Larson. If you'd like a real mental challenge to your scientific mind, then I highly recommend exploring Dewey's works.
Bring_4th_Monica Wrote:I would rather offer the info and have them refuse it, then to not offer it when it might have been helpful to them. I agree that we can trust that the other self's Higher Self will prevail and find a way to block the unwanted awakening if they don't want it.
I agree in concept, one should bear in mind that even the higher self is restricted by the free will of the entity during its veiled 3D incarnation. So, I would simply remind everyone again, of the importance of proceeding with care.
On a related topic, an interesting revelation came to me in a dream last night. In reality there is a universally scientifically recognized psi effect that everyone is familiar with. It's called the placebo effect. This is a topic easily broached with anyone and I think it's a great way to get their mental gears turning.
If you look at any clinical study to determine efficacy of a drug, medical device or procedure, they must all under-go placebo controlled double-blind studies. This is in order to account for the unexplained and down right irritating habit that people have of getting better just because they think they should. As a matter of fact, the placebo effect is almost always much greater than the effect due to the new medical innovation.
There has also, by necessity, been a great amount of research done in quantifying and isolating factors which enhance the placebo effect. That is why, for example, drug studies are double-blind (indicating that both the patient and the health provider do not know whether or not the patient is receiving a placebo), because studies showed that knowledge of who is getting the placebo even by the health care provider, affected the efficacy of the placebo and the drug. (Interestingly, many studies are now even triple-blind, meaning that the company funding the research is not aware of who gets the placebo.. any guess as to why?). Here are other factors that have actually been shown to enhance the placebo effect:
# Color. Red, yellow, or orange, “hot colored” tablets work better as stimulants, and “cool” colored ones--blue green, or purple--as depressants.
# Big rather than small capsules.
# Number. Two tablets are more effective than one.
# Branded proprietary tablets are more effective than unbranded ones.
# High price. Telling people they are taking a novel form of codeine (actually a placebo) that costs $2.50 rather than 10 cents increased the number of people reporting pain relief from 61% to 85.4%
# Injections have larger effect than pills.
# Devices are more effective than inert pills.
# If an inert substance is pre-associated in past experience with a real effect.
# Placebos administered by authority figures such as shamans, general practitioners and other trusted figures may also be more powerful than when the psychological or spiritual authority figure is absent.
# Adherence in regularly taking them (this parallels the benefits of adherence in regularly taking active treatment)
# The enthusiastic supportive attitude of the doctor about their effectiveness. In one study, the response to a placebo increased from 44% to 62% when the doctor gave them with “warmth, attention, and confidence”
This all clearly and unequivocally points to a consciousness effect (even by a third party) on the healing process of humans. No surprise to us, but it's gotta make a mechanist (my word for it, yossarian), really think.
Personally, I find it hilarious that drug companies have to go to such extremes to remove the placebo effect from their studies, when for almost every drug that has ever undergone clinical trials, the placebo effect is far greater than the effectiveness of the drug under study. Unfortunately, the companies can't patent a placebo, but once the drugs are on the market they are more than happy to take credit for patients whose improvement might well be from the placebo effect and not their drug.
So at the same time that western science avoids the taboo of researching the psi effect, they are spending billions of dollars annually to remove the elephant from the room without ever acknowledging its existence.
Food for thought,
3D Sunset