02-08-2018, 03:52 PM
(This post was last modified: 02-08-2018, 05:00 PM by bunny foo foo.)
(02-08-2018, 10:17 AM)Elros Wrote:(02-08-2018, 08:41 AM)bunny foo foo Wrote: Yes I understand fully that pedophiles are really hurt children in an adult body, but at the end of the day they are choosing to remain a damaged child and they are choosing to hurt children. These libtards that run around making excuses for criminals especially pdeophiles are morons. I was raped, I was tortured, I didn't always have empathy, I was well on my way to becoming a psychopath but I CHOSE not to, I CHOOSE to exercise empathy. I don't torture or rape because I CHOOSE not to. Pedophiles typically are comordid with other personality disorders like anti social (sociopath) and malignant narcissism. Pedophiles and others like them CHOOSE to hurt others. I don't care what excuse they have, I don't care how traumatized they were as a child, at the end of the day they CHOOSE to continue the cycle and they need to be stopped.
I think the main area where we see differently. To me the choice of anyone is my own and is expressed in the circumstances that manifest it, so there's no better choice.
I made this post a while back regarding this subject which expressed my perspective of the choice in relation to it.
(08-07-2017, 05:01 PM)Elros Wrote:(08-07-2017, 03:22 PM)Cainite Wrote: So if you get annoyed or angry by witnessing rape for example or child molestation, you're not being accepting of your own rapist aspect?
Quote:18.12 Questioner: You stated yesterday that forgiveness is the eradicator of karma. I am assuming that balanced forgiveness for the full eradication of karma would require forgiveness not only of other-selves but forgiveness of self. Am I correct?
Ra: I am Ra. You are correct. We will briefly expand upon this understanding in order to clarify.
Forgiveness of other-self is forgiveness of self. An understanding of this insists upon full forgiveness upon the conscious level of self and other-self, for they are one. A full forgiveness is thus impossible without the inclusion of self.
Funnily enough my new signature I made this morning seems to relate to this while I didn't have time to read your thread. A bit reverted but under the same principle that self and other-self are one.
About three weeks ago I was speaking of oneness to someone from work and used rapists as an example. I said how could I be the judge of rapists when I contain no drive toward rape? How am I great to not rape when it is easy and natural not to from within my current configuration, and what do I know of the hardships of such deeds when they come from an obssessed drive one has no power over and which might have been repressed again and again and again, perhaps with the self finding itself disgusting each time just as hating itself, until it gets so strong the act is done? How do I know I wouldn't be as weak to face such drives and become as powerless to turn myself into a rapist also?
Under Oneness I know I can do no better and the mirror is mine own, then there is the work to find love for the weaknesses which allows this. How unwhole must one feel to do such deeds? Is it not also worthy of compassion?
I never made the choice to not be a pedophile or a rapist, I just don't deal with being stuck in that.
Firstly, I just want to say thank you for your patience with me, I do appreciate this. Secondly, I apologize for being a douche, I guess this is part of my process when I wrestle difficult to grasp concepts. I do have plans on working on my douchiness because I don't enjoy douches myself so why would I think others should have to put up with such behavior. This subject is difficult and it's in my nature to protect the little guy. I like what you said here, it helps me understand better.
Earlier you stated, "you just seem to want others embark on a hunt for inner-broken-child people with you to prevent one particular experience amidst many many other experiences." This is both true and not entirely true, it's a piece of the puzzle. My concern is, that this business of no such thing as evil nor good or bad is simply grooming us to normalize abuse, especially sexual abuse. It's effectively demoralizing and that is idealogical subversion.
This is what happened in the U.S.S.R. before the communists killed close to 100 million people. People in Russia still don't believe in good and evil and as a result there is a huge international pedophile and slavery market run by organized crime and high ranking executives, and politicians worldwide participate in this. Who benefits from good people, positively oriented people rejecting the notion of good and evil, right and wrong? Who benefits? The bad guys benefit that's who, those who engage in rape, slavery etc. They won't have to hide what they do if people were more accepting and they would capture a larger market share and the government could get tax revenue, even snuff parties. This is why money is the root of evil, this is why this stuff continues, because good people don't do anything to stop it. Can't you see the brainwashing going on?
I totally understand the whole unity thing, and the bad guy needing to heal and all that and I agree, but that does not mean we don't hold them accountable. I suspect that relativism is a marxist concept.....that kind of communism doesn't work, it never will. It's what happened in Russia and every other communist country, this has also happened in muslim countries, this demoralizing and normalizing. It takes decades to accomplish but it's a lie. This is what abusive people do, they gaslight their victim's reality, teach them that the abuse they do unto others is not evil, is not bad and that they are misunderstood and are a victim themselves. It's classic narcissistic abuse. These people are negatively polarized and they are grooming people to accept their behaviors so they won't have consequences.
This is the problem I'm having because that is not unity, that is manipulation and control by shaping people's opinions. They want us to repress the knee jerk reaction to take them out of our existence. This reaction is normal and healthy because intrinsically we good people recognize that the child being violated is us in it's most purest form, we were all children. So when a child is raped, I am raped, I have a right to defend myself and that equates to defending the child from physical and psychological harm. After all the child is the future me and one day that kid may be wiping my ass when I'm too old to do it myself in a nursing home. Who do you want wiping your ass? A damaged adult child who will likely violate you or a healthy person who has empathy.
Psychopaths by the way are not capable of empathy, their brains are structured differently. Sociopaths and malignant narcissists do not have a default setting of empathy and it is a tall task for them to cognitively exercise some let alone feel it. These people do not think like normal people and the naivete of believing they may one day change with enough hugs and love or enough healing coming from others that's an illusion. I used to be a sociopath from my own trauma, the only reason I'm an empath today is because I CHOSE not to remain in that configuration as you termed it. It took me 23 years to finally feel something for another but it's because I admitted what I was and I wanted different and worked toward it. This is not typical and it didn't happen because I was loved enough, it happened because I loved myself enough. By doing that I understood long before I ever knew about the Law of One or Ra that we are one, that we are interconnected and we need to give a s*** what happens to others. Because if people had given a s*** about me I wouldn't have been a sociopath and many in my shoes go on to abuse others. I cannot say I am so self aware as to know if I have or not abused others I'm sure in moments of weakness I have, but excusing my poor choices in behavior and telling me I'm not evil for my deeds that doesn't help, it only enables. I need people to hold me accountable in order to learn, in order to continue to strive to be the best version of me so others can experience the best of me and not the worst. So when the concept of evil or good vs bad is removed we loose our way and people get hurt. That is tragedy. Humans are simpleton monkeys, we need guidelines, it's like having a map or GPS in unfamiliar territory. Besides, Ra said 49% of the time we could follow the negative path and if the negative path involves stopping abuse then I'm all for it.
Your choices matter to others when those choices have an effect outside of yourself. There are consequences for choices regardless of configuration. Just don't blindly believe everything that comes your way. Look at the countries that were communist, that are communist now, look at muslim countries and ask who benefits the most and who pays the most. Women and children pay the most, it's a man's world there without freedom, with oppression, rife with abuse. We are being groomed.