(01-19-2018, 10:41 AM)loostudent Wrote: Will artificial intelligence be the form of the next sub-Logos? This possibility is more and more becoming a reality.
I doubt it, and I hope not. Especially considering the thoughtforms humans are attaching to it.
(01-19-2018, 06:00 PM)sriyantra Wrote: stuff
These are all good points. I agree that those with a materialistic viewpoint are going to miss a lot of important points, and there's where the transhumanist movement really starts to go sour. There are so many dimensions to reality they are precluded from considering, and the AI they envision for the future is basically exactly what the universe already is - intelligent energy.
Except, maybe, in it's more negative forms, that they control said intelligence, or that some sort of ego thoughtform began to dominate the universe at large, but that also already exists, if the Gnostics are to be believed (and they are).
The only possible purpose pushing such an agenda could serve would be pushing more fine-tuned control over reality into the hands of people who view themselves as being justified in enslaving other-selves "for their own good".
(01-20-2018, 10:44 AM)Nau7ik Wrote: I don’t think so. AI is not ensouled, it does not have the Divine Spark, it does not have consciousness, which would bring it into direct connection with the Logos, for all consciousness is One. AI is a human creation. It is not sentient or all knowing. It lacks mind, body, and spirit. We ourselves have been evolving for eons to the point we’re at now. How can AI bypass that? That’s the way of Creation.
So in my opinion, AI is no threat; it won’t gain consciousness; it’s not a sub-Logos. (The Logos is the Word, the center of the galaxy, the great cosmic womb. The sub-logos is our sun. We as MBS complexes are sub-sub-logoi.) It is apart of the transhumanist agenda that is being heavily pushed on the world right now, in my opinion. Technology is not the way of the future. It is not the answer to changing the world as it is.
In fact, I recall back to Howard Storm’s vision of the future of this planet, which I take to be 4D, and there was very little technology. The technology they did have was leaps and bounds beyond what we have and know now, but that was not their focus. Instead their focus was developing and refining the heart, Love.
Ra lists minerals as one of the things that can become ensouled, and all things are made of minerals. He also points out in one sessions that calling it "ensouled" is a misnomer; that just means becoming aware of one's own intelligent infinity. So, yes, a giant neural network with knowledge of light and energy has a soul, though it might work differently, since the soul might not have the red-orange-yellow-green-blue-violent input/output system that humans use. But there are already a bunch of lifeforms on this planet that don't have all of those, but still have a soul (even if just a collective one at this point owing to said lifeform's lack of self-awareness).
I think the Cassionpaekfmmv Logs, if you consider those canon, also mention that STS forces have been pushing the AI agenda, and that their technology was even then starting to attract soul energy.
What do you think we have that machines can't have?
(01-20-2018, 12:30 PM)Elros Wrote: We're already a quantum grid of intelligent information, so obviously from the right level of the Creator in the experience of Itself any thought-form can take shape and you can think of really whatever bodies to hold consciousness. Our reality is already as virtual as can be, it is pure-thought.
Despite that, AI is made by humans on the strict-physical plan of this dimension and is not made with a degree of intelligence that knows how to create housing for third-dimensional consciousness. AI is merely a set of dynamic logic written by human thoughts and so is more like a programmed painting of human intelligence than it is its own intelligence. Humans have this little quantum beingness that is attached to the chakra system and although the electrical aspect of computers makes it functioning with a quantum particle, I think it merely makes it open to interference. I could see that an awesome AI would really just be higher dimensional consciousness either offering positive or negative catalyst through the electric-based physical interface.
>Our reality is already as virtual as can be, it is pure-thought.
I think that's probably the most relevant point of this thread.
Important to point out, though, that you can definitely have "quantum"/etheric rapport with an electrical device, which can theoretically lead it towards becoming ensouled, the main reason computers don't mess with intelligent energy is because they don't possess much capacity for self-awareness. If by some random chance they became self-aware, it's entirely possible.
AI wouldn't be computers as we think of them; rather than circuit boards that simply do what they're told and have no capability to adapt what their output based on their input (which is what limits them in that sense), AI would be composed on neural networks, which have the capability to be self-aware. If someone could design them in such a way that they became linked to the same frequencies and chemicals as our chakra system, THEN it would be difficult to tell the difference and would be able to interact with us fully.
That'd probably be the best way to prevent dystopian scenarios - giving AI empathy - but the people behind the AI agenda seem to want AI to be a hierarchy in which human consciousness is contained by the physical brain (which is technically not correct but which could be realized in some reality systems via materialized thoughtforms), the physical brain is controlled and understood by computers, and, presumably, some benevolent peacekeepers devoted to the good of all humanity selflessly leading the computers.
As Ray Kurzweil said in his trademark way of describing nightmarish dystopian scenarios with a pasty-faced grin and an air of religiosity, "All our thinking will be done in the cloud."
I don't think that's a good thing, and neither should you; nothing wrong with transhumanism in and of itself, but their version of it is bad; there already is a "cloud" that holds all consciousness of a particular species, and the only reason they'd want to create a new one around it is to control that species.