01-03-2018, 12:15 AM
(01-02-2018, 10:49 PM)Elros Wrote:(12-31-2017, 05:48 PM)Coordinate_Apotheosis Wrote: Elros, I think even here there are few completely awake. The old saying, WAKE UP SHEEPLE comes to mind. It may be harsh to ask but are you awake? Do you think saying yes isn't an egotistical statement? Or that saying no is somehow humbling?
The answer reflects the focus, intelligent infinity is what is truly awakened and contained within each of us. Any other thing is a play of being partially awakened and so having a partial awareness of infinity as infinite intelligence. There can be both kind of focus really, one upon the aspects of the self that are awakened and one on the aspects of the self that are not awakened, I'd expect a greater focus upon yes because it is effectively an egoistic statement that focuses on what is known by self, and thus what is awakened in self and this sense of awakened self is the ego whether as a child or an adept.
(12-31-2017, 05:48 PM)Coordinate_Apotheosis Wrote: It is a very insincere game in regards to how we should regard ego as something to be overcome or rebirthed.
I don't think it deserves to be overcome but in certain cases it seeks of itself to alleviate itself into being released. The nature of spirit is that of potential, and in this is held all healing. You are how you see yourself and this is how it cannot be overcome, but you also are infinitely more than that and this is how it can transform.
(12-31-2017, 05:48 PM)Coordinate_Apotheosis Wrote: I never looked at my ego during my 'awakening', I noted profound changes that in retrospect I would not describe as overcoming or defeating, but instead it was like the ego matured and changed. It only fell away once those things happened and led me to deep realization of the Law of One. Once I was unable to make further progress in that realization my ego came back and it, was, pissed.
We are our ego as much as our soul. Remember, how we're all 3D? How would you feel, if you existed to be overcome, as if you were a hurdle, an obstacle? Something to be discarded and defeated?
It'd hurt me personally. Even as an ego-based person, if anything else were possible, I still managed to be loving. I don't really understand or know deeply anything though.
I actually don't think the ego deserves to be overcome. I had experiences in which I thought I'd never go back to how I was and felt a sorrow out of it, like something great and beautiful was lost. But then the veil slowly comes back into place and you see, like you said, that you matured and changed but remain of here as a complex. Awakened is just an aspect of yourself that is ever there and awake, you just align with it and realize it within yourself as both you it and it you.
(12-31-2017, 05:48 PM)Coordinate_Apotheosis Wrote: I find awakening shouldn't be the goal or point, or that overcoming the ego is basically a bad idea.
One needs to unify the self. This means taking in the ego with forgiveness, compassion, acceptance, unconditional love. Let it exist, let it grope in the darkness, don't make it a shadow of opposition, help sooth it. When you hunger, feed yourself.
One does not become enlightened by seeing the Light, but by making the Dark conscious.
About the bolded statement, I think it should be seen as half of it and usually if you focus on seeing yourself as Light you will start seeing catalysts that make surface what within you hinders you to be this Light that you visualize yourself to be. So I think it is perfectly fine to just focus on Light, but if you are insincere about it then it is mixed with both intents and this creates energetic tensions within your field, and these tensions create a gravity with external potential catalysts to resolve the inner conflict.
(12-31-2017, 05:48 PM)Coordinate_Apotheosis Wrote: In the beginning there was nothingness, darkness. Then there was consciousness. We could call the very creation mythos a result of enlightenment. Instead of fretting the abyss of emptiness, Creator accepted it as it was, and this act transformed it into Light. (Simplified explanation).
What's wrong with not being awake? If everyone was awake there'd be no challenge. We'd all realize the same things and we'd all lack the excuses to perpetuate the world as it is today.
In a way, half-awake is the most efficacious place to be. All the roads are available, and when one becomes awakened/enlightened it is temporary as we all must sleep again eventually only to inevitably wake up again, resulting in a cycle of sleep and awakening or basically a way to continual enlightenment.
It is not surprising to me then that some whom wake up desire to go back to sleep. It is not that they are not ready, but that that's the path they desire to take.
Being asleep isn't a bad thing. Many dreams manifest during such time, and much potential for work still exists, it's just not distinctly known like before. Working in slumber is a lot harder, but the rewards are greater. Working awake just makes things more efficient.
So, I'd say you should look at your words as if they were said from you to yourself. You too appear to be unaware of what it means to really be awake. And so do I, cause I sure don't know beyond a very brief glimpse that has left me, overall, more confused than ever.
777 has my acceptance, may their journey become ever better throughout, even in the face of things they would rather avoid. That this new year should treat them good. That they'll treat themself good.
I'm sorry for your suffering, but you know. You're a jackpot. Your number is going to come up, so don't give up, just take a break. I understand your expressed feelings, and wish only the best for you regardless. (And with that said don't throw all your coins at the machine until you win, you might go broke, so take a break, and play responsibly )
I meant more to say that awakening to the truer nature of spirit is pretty much to reach out for peace and wellness, but yes it is undeniable that you have to release the holds of the aspects of yourself that don't want to be at peace.
The darkness you spoke of that was in the beginning, it is not unwellness either and so blockages may ever be released once made conscious as common growth unfolds as they are a complex of the light. We each are the potential of being everyone else and yet it is so common to see the self as unlike the others, we create a cage of restricting self-perception which hinders our heritage of life that is love birthing light to shine and radiate. If you became exceptionally good at releasing your blockages and fall short of having much to align, you could start answering the call of others and release their nodes. It wouldn't be hard or a chore, it'd be a second nature and that's the only way to most sincerely do it.
I think part of the issue some people may find they have is that they confuse seeking power with awakening as the Creator in the experience of Itself. An imbalanced seeking of power unfolds as what it is, while a balanced seeking naturally finds power as it knows to work with.
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Min, I just want to say your spiritual wisdom is so immense sometimes it's like reading a whole different language.
You should make a public journal of your thoughts.
@IU: In slumber I intended the idea that polarizing under total veil influence allows for greater gain than doing so under partial veil influence, as in to say that being awake and knowing to polarize isn't the same as doing so while asleep. The idea is doing so while asleep is the idea towards strong polarizations. But I don't know, just assume.
I don't see any separation, the body is just the visible part of the consciousness. What I see is unusual and disturbing usage by the consciousness of the body and m/b/s complex.
In NDE's and LBL Hypnotherapy, some people upon realizing what the body is designed to be as (physical vehicle that is otherwise devoid of intelligence, with the soul being the intelligent creative 'life' of the body) expressed being disturbed and in the narrative of one of Michael Newtons books it's said that people's reactions to that knowledge ranged from indifference to serious disturbance, with some being a bit traumatized by the knowledge.
I think my misconception then is less separation and more a lack of ethical consideration for what is manifested. I might even confront, ... whomever, The Powers That Be, with a plan to transform 3D into a still decently speedy and intensive experience that's less loose in some designs towards ethics.
A sub-plane for those like me who are so disturbed we're stifled.
I'd highly HIGHLY recommend the books by Michael Newton, the research foundation for NDE's, nderf.org, and consider that the Ra Material speaks in metaphor at times about things due to the highly logical intellectual language in areas.