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    Thread: Empathy or benifit of the doubt for those we understand the least.


    Glow Away

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    01-01-2018, 08:28 PM
    (01-01-2018, 07:18 PM)Coordinate_Apotheosis Wrote: What a synchronistic topic...
    I too a few weeks ago experienced something a bit like you did Glow but it was closer to Sprout's experiencebecause it was in a dream.  It was a simple dream, I was in bed, and a soft soothing, motherly feeling figure was standing next to my bed, but in my anger I merely screamed and curled up into a ball, especially because I thought it was my mother trying to do something mean.
    Strangely enough I don't scream usually.  I yell, but that was a scream.  I find in my dreams I scream, in reality, I yell.

    But that figure I screamed at, I feel bad because looking back, it was clearly just trying to help me...
    I wouldn't bother feeling bad, if it was there to offer comfort it clearly already knew you needed compassion and understanding. That is similar to my last experience as a kid before I blocked it out.

    I had just shut the light off and was still sitting up but when I did there was a shadowy woman in my doorway. I knew my mother was working nights, and I and my stepfather were the only ones home. This womans hair was different anyways but I was so scared with all the catholic school indoctrination that I really really wished it was my mother lol
    I squeaked out a quiet wishful thinking "mom?" and it answered yes and walked toward me, she put her hand on my forehead and i fell instantly to sleep. How stupid is it that the idea that being lied and said she was my mother was all it took to shut off spirit contact for the next 20 years. I hadn't heard of reincarnation so the thought was she was definitley lying. So strange because as a small child I would ask for my "other mother" sometimes when my mom would pick me up. Maybe that was her n the doorway offering comfort and instead it freaked me out.

    Anyways no harm no foul for either of us. We do our best in each moment.
    (01-01-2018, 07:18 PM)Coordinate_Apotheosis Wrote: I've been aware of a highly volatile madness/sadness cyclical theme in my emotions.  First comes anger, then sadness, and an oscillation between the two until I'm too exhausted to go anymore, problem is I'm high energy emotionally, I'm nuclear easily.  The way it goes for me, I'll extremely angry at something, this triggers a thoughtstorm in my mind, which culminates with all these bad thoughts into a severe depression.  There's been a lot of yelling followed by hours of crying in my life.  I cried last night because the Supermoon made me see myself so clearly in the dark after I got so mad over what was literally nothing.
    I didn't expand on this earlier but I think sadness hides behind pain. It's like one is hurt/scared, there is a natural grief or sadness about this situation.
    One can either stay there and explore it or instead push back against the cause in anger and explore that for a while.  

    I see a lot of anger in others and there is always pain behind it, maybe when you exhaust the anger you have no cover for the pain?
    Just a thought.
    (01-01-2018, 07:18 PM)Coordinate_Apotheosis Wrote: It's interesting, you scream yourself awake, my ex used to do that but said it was from being raped in high school.  Interestingly over the months of waking her up to me, smiling, trying to calm her down, made her night terrors stop completely by the time we broke up.  Knowing you're in a safe place with a supportive SO actively helping you moment by moment was very healing for her.  I did my best to be as my Cancerian nature has me naturally, nurturing.

    But that was back then when I was still a mostly decent guy.  Nowadays...anyways, Glow if you're still experiencing such, just ask your husband to wake you up and be patient, very patient.  I got so used to my ex screaming in the middle of the night that I was trained to wake her up, while not even half conscious coming out of sleep, literally she would thank me the next day for things I had no recollection of doing in the night.  But after so long, it was like she knew deep down everything was okay, and eventually her screaming at night stopped.  But I was so used to it that I would wake her up if she even crossed a certain sound level, I ruined a few wet dreams for her that way heh.

    Oh trust me I'm awake it goes like this, or at least it used to. I'm asleep but something stirs me. I sit up, open my eyes to look where it is and am startled to see and feel a being standing by the bed, at which point I would startle, and scream like I was being stabbed.

    As soon as I make a noise I pop out of that ability to see. My poor husband is the one to feel bad for I have a set of lungs and have seen him nearly fall out of bed a few times from me screaming. That was my biggest concern. I thought it was going to give him a heart attack. Though I really did hate the vulnerable feeling of awaking to beings standing around your bed. Oddly the pacing, was way less threatening. lol

    I just remembered I had one a few months ago that didn't scare me, I just rolled over and went back to sleep so I assume I am making some progress. Still I'd like to calmly be able to stay in that state and explore what is to be learned from those visitors. Time.

    Its really nice you could do that for your girlfriend. Last night I was sleeping in the spare room when it happened as there was a husband snoring issue keeping me awake lol but my husband heard me talking to the visitor and while he sleeps like a rock he knows that theta wave tone and came running in. I appreciated it even though I wasnt scared this time.
    (01-01-2018, 07:18 PM)Coordinate_Apotheosis Wrote: I...Am a mixture of jealousy and happiness for you Glow.  Anger is so terrible.  I would rather deal with sadness than madness, but instead I got both raging in me...  You should be EXTRA-EMELY Gentle with anger.  No emotional response except compassion will scratch deep anger.  Only compassion can face anger or rage on a unified footing, and I find this is because anger is of compassion as hate and love are of caring.  You can't hate something if you don't care about it.  You can't be angry at something if you lack compassion for it.

    Maybe you can but I can't. My emotions work in groupings like that, where good and bad belong to some things.

    So, my advice to you if you're taking on an angry lesson, is to discover where compassion is needed to balance it.

    I learned this lesson from writing a story, but a spiritual victory over an angry being is as simple as forgiving that anger, and having compassion for why they're angry, and expressing such to them.

    Anger seeks to destroy, so when it sees something that can transform it, like compassion, it stops its charge forward, and is struck instead with the deeper understanding of what it means to be so self destructively angry.  The compassion from there needs only to accept and let the anger express itself less destructively.  From there, anger is healed.

    Sadly some hold enough anger to make that process seemingly infinite...

    And when it comes to sadness, pleasant inoffensive laughter is the healer.

    I really really hope your anger isn't anything like mine.  You're such a kind person, it scares me, anger is very damaging to kindness...  Please be extra careful when dealing with it Sad
    Thanks for your care C.A. honestly I cannot sustain anger it just seems like a mask to me for what lies beneath so when I learn of it I will be able to take it off like a mask. Or it will consume me and I will be in the news. Blush No promises lol

    I know everone here sort of tunes out when I talk about my dual incarnation but he is exploring anger this life, I know beneath his is fear and grief.

    The anger is so powerful and so much more productive/destructive than sadness but comes at a cost. He is awakening now(part of that proof thread- I was told clearly when it would happen, and it is) so I will soon be seeing how that is worked through. I know there is all the same depth of pain I had buried beneath his anger but then the accumulation of anger on top.  It doesn't look easy but I'm sure you both can do it.

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    Empathy or benifit of the doubt for those we understand the least. - by Glow - 01-01-2018, 12:36 PM
    RE: Empathy or benifit of the doubt for those we understand the least. - by Glow - 01-01-2018, 12:43 PM
    RE: Empathy or benifit of the doubt for those we understand the least. - by Glow - 01-01-2018, 12:47 PM
    RE: Empathy or benifit of the doubt for those we understand the least. - by xise - 01-01-2018, 01:01 PM
    RE: Empathy or benifit of the doubt for those we understand the least. - by Diana - 01-01-2018, 01:08 PM
    RE: Empathy or benifit of the doubt for those we understand the least. - by Glow - 01-01-2018, 01:34 PM
    RE: Empathy or benifit of the doubt for those we understand the least. - by Glow - 01-01-2018, 01:21 PM
    RE: Empathy or benifit of the doubt for those we understand the least. - by xise - 01-01-2018, 01:33 PM
    RE: Empathy or benifit of the doubt for those we understand the least. - by Diana - 01-01-2018, 01:05 PM
    RE: Empathy or benifit of the doubt for those we understand the least. - by Glow - 01-01-2018, 01:28 PM
    RE: Empathy or benifit of the doubt for those we understand the least. - by Sprout - 01-01-2018, 02:02 PM
    RE: Empathy or benifit of the doubt for those we understand the least. - by Glow - 01-01-2018, 02:28 PM
    RE: Empathy or benifit of the doubt for those we understand the least. - by Coordinate_Apotheosis - 01-01-2018, 07:18 PM
    RE: Empathy or benifit of the doubt for those we understand the least. - by Glow - 01-01-2018, 08:28 PM
    RE: Empathy or benifit of the doubt for those we understand the least. - by Sprout - 01-02-2018, 04:26 AM
    RE: Empathy or benifit of the doubt for those we understand the least. - by Glow - 01-02-2018, 05:11 PM
    RE: Empathy or benifit of the doubt for those we understand the least. - by Sacred Fool - 01-02-2018, 04:58 AM
    RE: Empathy or benifit of the doubt for those we understand the least. - by Sprout - 01-02-2018, 05:48 PM
    RE: Empathy or benifit of the doubt for those we understand the least. - by Glow - 01-02-2018, 05:52 PM
    RE: Empathy or benifit of the doubt for those we understand the least. - by Infinite Unity - 01-02-2018, 06:37 PM
    RE: Empathy or benifit of the doubt for those we understand the least. - by Minyatur - 01-02-2018, 06:16 PM
    RE: Empathy or benifit of the doubt for those we understand the least. - by Glow - 01-02-2018, 06:47 PM
    RE: Empathy or benifit of the doubt for those we understand the least. - by Sprout - 01-02-2018, 07:27 PM
    RE: Empathy or benifit of the doubt for those we understand the least. - by Glow - 01-02-2018, 07:41 PM
    RE: Empathy or benifit of the doubt for those we understand the least. - by Minyatur - 01-02-2018, 11:45 PM
    RE: Empathy or benifit of the doubt for those we understand the least. - by Coordinate_Apotheosis - 01-02-2018, 11:43 PM
    RE: Empathy or benifit of the doubt for those we understand the least. - by Sprout - 01-03-2018, 01:22 AM

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