01-01-2018, 03:00 AM
(12-28-2017, 11:48 AM)Bring4th_Jade Wrote:(12-26-2017, 02:17 PM)peregrine Wrote:(12-26-2017, 12:14 PM)Bring4th_Jade Wrote: I mean, let's look at your two examples. They obviously had done a lot of DOING, as a service to the yellow-ray sphere. Where would we be without them? Where would we be without those who spoke up for truth in the face of hypocrisy? The idea that this is less spiritual is toxic, I'm sorry peregrine, but that's the best thing I can say about that interpretation of the philosophy. Of course, putting an emphasis on doing OVER being is equally as dangerous to the state of one's energetic balance. But if one uses their being to inform their doing - with lots of meditation and processing of catalyst - they are COMPELLED to serve others, as that is what Ra says that a wide-open indigo ray produces.
So, I feel that at this time, with so much advertisement and fake news and brainwashing and all of the constant attempts to mislead people, that to attempt to speak through all the falsities is a necessary service.
When it comes to free expression to self and others, Jade, I think you're doing quite well. <smiling emoji-thingy>
I don't take issue with any of your stated points, and yet....something feels displaced, not quite on center....if you don't mind my saying so. (Maybe I should give you a tarot reading to help elucidate this, eh? JUST KIDDING! That's not my style.)
I'm just going to take a shot in the dark, if that's okay. I feel that the subject of your rant--stroking, not strangling the beast--comes from your heart, but that the delivery of the message has a rather strong grip, so to speak. Put another way, your passion seems derivative of your own sense of your being's response to planetary peril, but your delivery doesn't feel like it's riding on that same inner stream of love. It seems to have elements of self-protection in it which are most likely unintended. Just to give an example, when CA objected to your bringing the archetypes into this discussion (a curious objection), your reply felt to me self-defensive rather than open-hearted in such a way as to acknowledge his concern while encompassing that within a larger frame of thought. I wouldn't say your hand was on his throat, but I doubt he received much warmth from that incident in the over all interaction.
I'm not trying to over-scrutinize your behavior, but I want to compare that to the examples of King and Schweitzer. I fully expect that King lived in a much more trying social milieu and, consequently, probably had many more unconscious leanings towards self-protection. And it may well have been this reflexive self-protection which contributed to his having polarized much less positively than he would have liked in a positive manner.
I can say that is the case for me right now. It happens frequently that I look at myself not approaching a person or a situation with an open heart and I quickly see that I am trying to protect myself from..... Well, that's where it gets interesting...and time consuming! But I just want to be clear that I'm trying to wheedle a thin shaft of light down into this dark space to possibly benefit us both. Letting go of a sense of safety seems fundamentally foolish on the gut level and so it is a very sensitive thing to speak to. I hope I wasn't too strong-handed with you in this missive.
Hi peregrine. I understand your grievances. The reason I didn't give much legitimacy to the claims about my discussion of the tarot bothering people, is because I felt like its genesis was a place of misunderstanding (Sprout thought I was giving them a personal tarot reading). I felt that once I clarified that I was using the Law of One tarot archetypes in a discussion, on the Strictly Law of One forum, that there wasn't much else to address. I have spent a lot of time and energy tending to C_A, on the forums and in PMs, so criticizing me for showing a minor lack of patience for what I felt like was a non-issue in the grand scheme of things is quite hurtful, actually.
In fact, while I don't think you are too strong-handed, I think there is something a little "off", as it seems that most of the criticisms in this thread have been lobbed directly at ME, and HOW I have conveyed the message I have to convey, instead of what I have said. I know what I have said isn't the easiest message to hear, and probably hits people a little personally, so I guess I can understand why I'm experiencing personal attacks as a response to what I have had to say.
I have a feeling that if you approached MLK and told him that he was "ranting" in the wrong way, that you might feel the protective bubble that he puts around himself as well, as we all have it.
As it stands, being a moderator of a forum that is 90% male and has posters who openly call themselves misogynists with very little challenge to that extremely polarized point of view, yes, I do have some walls built up. I have had some pretty terrible things said to me in passing on these forum throughout the years, I'd say more than the average poster or moderator even. Someday, I hope to be so foolish as to not have these walls, but I have never claimed to be anywhere near the end of my journey, just at some point along the path. As you mentioned, it takes a lot of time! What I do know is that I have spent a lot of this thing called time contemplating the archetypes, and meditating upon them, because it was my understanding that it was the most difficult to understand piece of the Ra material, so I wanted to learn so that I could teach. I guess it is a little hard to hear that my efforts are not welcome here, and I took that probably a bit more personally and harshly than I should have, which likely closed my heart chakra a bit. I fully admit that. So, what other personal failings do I have to admit before we can get on with the conversation at hand?
Hey Jade, I apologize again. It really was a misunderstanding, but if we never hear each others hearts and feelings we can never truly walk beside one another. So that is why I expressed myself in such a manner, I was not ready to work with tarot at that specific time and area, therefore I saw myself not being able to continue the discussion. Possibly should've just abstained from replying. But I saw that you made a lot of work regarding the archetypes, and I know that if some day I do decide to take an interest into those then I'd always have that part of service that you gave us. So truly, I am sorry, and I thank you for that, thank you for putting all that time, energy, and pure love to study that essential part of the L/L material.