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    12-13-2017, 03:59 PM (This post was last modified: 12-13-2017, 04:05 PM by Aion.)
    Personally I don't really see the 'balance' in the OP. It wasn't about "people", it was about men being sexually harassed and seemed intentionally polarized that way. Why not just talk about sexual assault as a phenomenon in general as opposed to focusing on one or the other gender? "Why aren't men fighting back?" is a highly polarized question.

    I noticed that the quote taken from the news article only highlighted the male numbers, but ignored the full quote - "Even though women filing charges makes up the bulk of the EEOC’s sexual harassment workload, men are becoming a bigger piece of the pie, with nearly 2000 filing charges last year." The full quote still stated that the BULK of the filings still come from women. So either way, the skew of the perspective is all going to depend on the source.

    There is also this important note from the same article - "I would be remiss if I didn’t address another big issue — bogus sexual harassment claims. Yes, men can make those too." (These are from the NBC article.)

    So, maybe we can rearrange the idea here towards one of reconciliation and working together. I would propose questions such as this:

    How can men and women work together to increase respect and decrease harassment for both?
    How can men and women who have been harassed be supported?
    How can we address the pain of victims without invalidating their experience?
    How can we develop more peace between masculine and feminine?
    How can women help other women be safe and secure?
    How can men help other men be safe and secure?
    How can we reduce the stigmatization of sexual assault claims in general?
    How can we on an individual level work to dissuade sexual harassment?

    I think it's somewhat strange how you guys are saying men are denied fighting back, while also bringing up the point that sexual harassment claims have increased from men? Isn't that what 'fighting back' looks like?

    I am also very curious who all of these men are who have been 'tried by the media' and fired and their families ruined. I've read of only a couple cases where that has happened, certainly not the throes of men the OP seems to be suggesting.

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    Why Aren't Men Fighting Back? - The Sexual Assault of Men and Boys - by Dante776 - 12-07-2017, 08:00 PM
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    RE: Why Aren't Men Fighting Back? - The Sexual Assault of Men and Boys - by Dante776 - 12-10-2017, 10:06 PM
    RE: Why Aren't Men Fighting Back? - The Sexual Assault of Men and Boys - by Coordinate_Apotheosis - 12-07-2017, 11:15 PM
    RE: Why Aren't Men Fighting Back? - The Sexual Assault of Men and Boys - by YinYang - 12-08-2017, 08:50 AM
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    RE: Why Aren't Men Fighting Back? - The Sexual Assault of Men and Boys - by Aion - 12-09-2017, 12:39 AM
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