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    12-12-2017, 08:36 PM (This post was last modified: 12-12-2017, 09:15 PM by Dante776.)
    (12-11-2017, 02:37 AM)YinYang Wrote: Anxiety is the fear that one of a pair of opposites might cancel the other. Forever.

    There’s no fear on my part because I know that’s never going to happen.

    Quote:Dante, you said above "There has always been balance in one form or another." This is a lie as far as gender equality goes, and you know it, women have been subjugated for millennia now, which completely validates Jade's response "but I feel a duty to not allow complete falsehoods to perpetuate". You seem to be quite upset by this societal change that has been gradually happening for a very long time, these things don't happen overnight. It happens step by step, with every generation inching us closer to an equal playing field for both genders (and all races mind you).

    I am very relieved at the progress that has been achieved. What is a free society? A society where everyone, regardless of race, gender or sexual orientation is allowed to achieve their highest potential. We still have a long way to go, so you might experience a lot more discomfort in future, because this wave is just starting to gain momentum. Look where patriarchy got us... a world in shambles... a world at war... a world destroyed...

    YinYang, this is a matter of perspective. It depends if you are viewing this strictly through Western lenses, or universally. From the earliest times there was a division of labor on the basis of age and sex in pre-agricultural societies. It was a common practice among hunting-gathering societies to assign different tasks to men and women.

    While many “primitive” human cultures were patriarchal, there were also some matriarchal societies, and the vast majority were largely egalitarian, with positions of status that provide very little privilege. No society was ruled entirely by either men or women. Certainly, both mothers and fathers have some influence in any society. Neither sex could exclude half the population (the other sex) from all power, position, or influence. Even in societies where women were not allowed to have jobs outside the home, their influence on the children, the family, and home life was bound to be considerable.

    So, the social role of women varied during the Paleolithic, Neolithic, and Bronze ages. During the Iron age however, there were many powerful female rulers. In Egypt you had MerNeith, Sobekneferu, Nefertiti, Hatshepsut, Twosret, and Cleopatra VII Philopater. There was Artemisia of Caria (Persia), Cartimandua, Queen of the Brigantes, a Celtic Tribe in Northern England, Boudicca, Queen of the Iceni (East England), Cleopatra Thea of Syria, Lei-tzu (Lei Zu, Si Ling-chi) of China, Semiramis (Sammu-Ramat) of Assyria, and many others. There were many cultures that revered women and nurtured female authority. The sacred and divine feminine was a significant part of many pre-colonial societies.

    It wasn’t until later in Western societies during the middle ages, particularly during the Victorian era, which was the period of Queen Victoria's reign in the United Kingdom, did women begin to be treated as second class citizens (ironically). Even then, women were often found in positions of equality by default. Sometimes a daughter would actually take over the family business and run it herself if her father became unable to, something that wouldn't really happen until much later in modern society. Women also generally ran the taverns in the Middle Ages -- in fact, women once ran England's entire beer industry. Women who became the abbess of a covenant where in a position of power very similar to a male lord.

    When you look at the evolutionary trajectory of human history as a whole, there has always been balance in one form or another. So, I respectively ask you to check your facts before calling people liars when there is a plethora of information out there that supports this claim. I've included a few references below as I always do.

    Ref:

    https://www.theguardian.com/science/2015...scientists
    http://www.worldclass.net/geo/Reilly/menwom1.htm
    http://anthropology.iresearchnet.com/division-of-labor/
    https://www.thoughtco.com/ancient-women-rulers-3528391
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    Why Aren't Men Fighting Back? - The Sexual Assault of Men and Boys - by Dante776 - 12-07-2017, 08:00 PM
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    RE: Why Aren't Men Fighting Back? - The Sexual Assault of Men and Boys - by Coordinate_Apotheosis - 12-07-2017, 11:15 PM
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