12-11-2017, 12:57 PM
Quote:1) Logos Accountability
There are many aspects of this construct that are incompatible with my beliefs. First, and most fundamental, is the objective to create greater polarization for a more efficient progress of souls. This greater polarization has led to an epic amount of suffering. In no circumstance do I believe that suffering should be required. As Ra said, there are many Logos and many methods. Ra also mentioned the iterative approach, suggesting a journey of imperfection even with the Logos. Do you believe suffering is acceptable?
We have a special Logos at the space/time. Our planet has Maldekians (blew up their own planet), Martians (destroyed their atmosphere), and beings from a few other planetary systems where harvest was not possible for other, similar things. Earth is the special needs planet - special needs for those who need a bit more catalyst to wake up and stop destroying themselves.
Suffering is in no way required. However, the veil (free will/suffering) was created because without friction, no entities want to progress. Here is the analogy Ra uses:
Quote:82.28 Questioner: OK. This is the central important point. Why, then, was it so— You’ve answered this, but it seems to me that if the polarization was the obvious thing that more effort would have been put forward to polarize. Let me see if I can state this… Before the veil there was an awareness of the need for polarization towards service to others in third density by all entities, whether incarnate in third-density, yellow-ray bodies or whether in between incarnations. What was the— I assume, then, that the condition of which we earlier spoke, the one of wealth you might say, was present through the entire spectrum of experience whether it be between incarnations or during incarnation and the entities just simply could not [chuckling] get up the desire or manifest the desire to create this polarization necessary for graduation. Is this correct?
Ra: I am Ra. You begin to grasp the situation. Let us continue the metaphor of the schooling but consider the scholar as being an entity in your younger years of the schooling process. The entity is fed, clothed, and protected regardless of whether or not the schoolwork is accomplished. Therefore, the entity does not do the homework but rather enjoys playtime, mealtime, and vacation. It is not until there is a reason to wish to excel that most entities will attempt to excel.
Quote:2) Free Will
Throughout the Ra Material, there is reference to the preservation of Free Will. Prior to reading Ra, I was troubled by the use of the word ‘Free’. The Ra material did not diminish this. Considering the amount of manipulation and not-so-subtle influence exerted on souls, it’s less than appropropriate to consider Will as Free. I have never encountered a soul that wanted to succumb to fear. Nor have I encountered a soul that wanted an arrested state of development. So I consider Will to be more of a challenge or test, and something far from ‘Free’. What is your belief on the degree to which Free Will is Free?
I kind of like this quote from Tolstoy about free will. Tolstoy says that which we consider as free will is actually a very narrow thing, and that Truth is even narrower, so we should just go along the road of Truth instead of Free Will.

Quote:The liberty of man does not consist in the power of acting independently of the progress of life and the influences arising from it, but in the capacity for recognizing and acknowledging the truth revealed to him, and becoming the free and joyful participator in the eternal and infinite work of God, the life of the world; or on the other hand for refusing to recognize the truth, and so being a miserable and reluctant slave dragged whither he has no desire to go.
Truth not only points out the way along which human life ought to move, but reveals also the only way along which it can move. And therefore all men must willingly or unwillingly move along the way of truth, some spontaneously accomplishing the task set them in life, others submitting involuntarily to the law of life. Man's freedom lies in the power of this choice.
This freedom within these narrow limits seems so insignificant to men that they do not notice it. Some--the determinists--consider this amount of freedom so trifling that they do not recognize it at all. Others--the champions of complete free will--keep their eyes fixed on their hypothetical free will and neglect this which seemed to them such a trivial degree of freedom.
This freedom, confined between the limits of complete ignorance of the truth and a recognition of a part of the truth, seems hardly freedom at all, especially since, whether a man is willing or unwilling to recognize the truth revealed to him, he will be inevitably forced to carry it out in life.
A horse harnessed with others to a cart is not free to refrain from moving the cart. If he does not move forward the cart will knock him down and go on dragging him with it, whether he will or not. But the horse is free to drag the cart himself or to be dragged with it. And so it is with man.
Whether this is a great or small degree of freedom in comparison with the fantastic liberty we should like to have, it is the only freedom that really exists, and in it consists the only happiness attainable by man.
And more than that, this freedom is the sole means of accomplishing the divine work of the life of the world.
Kind of grim, but realistic I think.
Quote:3) The Source of Imperfection
Like many of you, I’ve been blessed to have been in densities of Unity. No words could ever express this perfection. It’s within this context that I’ve long searched - and haven’t found - an explanation of the origins of imperfection. The most common is that the Creator was lonely, so separation was created. I don’t believe this is possible with Unity. Most spiritual material that I’ve read, including Ra, is limited to our journey within the construct(s), but doesn’t address this most fundamental question. Does anyone have hypothesis or knowledge to share?
The reason the Creator created separation was not loneliness, but because of the nature of infinity. Once separation was conceived of, it had to be explored in full.