(12-10-2017, 03:53 PM)Bring4th_Jade Wrote: Thanks for your input, Dante. As a moderator of this forum, I am allowed to have my own opinions and voice them. I stand behind what I say, and what I feel is the lack of sincerity with which you have created this post.
I also find it interestingly fitting that as a moderator, I'm chided for having an opinion, although Austin had some equally clear and delineated grievances against your post.
I mostly agree with Austin, his opening and closing statements were very clear:
Austin Wrote:Even with the recent cultural phenomenon of holding certain men in power (certainly not all men who harass, yet), harassment by men against women is still wildly under-reported as well. And there is nothing about the concept of the taboo against men reporting harassment that is invalidated by the focus on voices of women who have been harassed. Bringing up this issue as a counterpoint to holding men responsible is a form of whataboutism that seems to more attempt to silence the women than give a voice to male victims.
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I understand that giving women the spotlight here feels as though men who are legitimately suffering are being ignored, but there are ways to talk about that and bring it up in ways that isn't a counterpoint to the issue of men abusing women.
I call you a troll because I can tell just by this: https://www.bring4th.org/forums/search.p...a97f04538f
And I can equally call you a Feminist Troll, @feminist_troll, for posting messages like this. The victimization of men, https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthre...?tid=14270. From what I can tell, you’re obviously a highly charged Faux Feminist who uses feminism to bash and belittle non-feminists (usually men). You generally only use feminism to hurt or attack others. And it is on this basis that you are completely out of line. I have made it clear that I am for JUSTICE, which includes equality among the genders. You on the other hand are simply trying to turn me into one of your Feminist Troll bashing lackeys, which I can assure I’m not the one. Save that drama for your husband, please! You’re the one that has a chip on your shoulder. You’re the one that seems to have Penis Envy.
Regarding Austin’s comments, his statement was a little more balanced than yours. He did at least acknowledge that men are victims of female harassment also whereas you don’t seem to acknowledge this at all. You just see men as "victims" by dint of birth. And for either of you to assume that I’m raising the issue as a counterpoint to holding men responsible or to silence the voices of women is just pure nonsense! What if I said that [the media] bringing up the issue of harassment to women as a counterpoint to holding whites responsible for the continued annihilation of unarmed blacks is just a form of whataboutism that seems more of an attempt to silence blacks than give a voice to female victims? Would that be right? Of course not! Both have merit and both deserve equal attention.
Quote:Almost every thread you have made has been some attempt to make people scared, either of Ra, or the Law of One, or spirituality in general. I haven't seen you engage productively or seriously with the Law of One philosophy at all, just the space dramas with the Illuminati, the cabal, the archons, etc.
That's right! And what I have contributed so far has done more to shed light on the subject than you have in the entire five years that you've been on here.
Quote:And now here you come, exploiting that which is obviously a huge weakness in the forums (gender balance) and then acting like you're just innocently trying to have a conversation. I'm not buying it.
Now, the last I heard this is a country that upholds freedom of speech. So who are you to criticize me for posting what I want to post? So what if I happen to have an opinion and a view that is drastically different than yours. I have my own experiences and studies that bring me to my conclusions, just as you have yours. Our differences is what makes us ALL special. And I celebrate that. Do you? I seriously doubt it. Besides, I just joined in September, less than 3 months ago compared to you, since June of 2013, giving you far more opportunities to post a wide rage of opinions on subject matters that I have yet been able to do. So, I don’t care if you’re not buying my desire to have a serious conversation on this matter because I’m not trying to sell it to you! Also, the notion of me being here only to disrupt and cause fear is just cheap attempt to label me. You’re simply trying to describe me by single terms and reduce me to a one-dimensional artifact which is totally uncalled for. We don’t have to use disparaging words in an attempt to diminish others just to feel better about ourselves. When you do this however, just keep in mind that Turnabout is fair game.
Quote:And I'm not saying that the poster who is 0000 made their best effort to offer a balanced opinion, either. I just find the SMC witchhunt extremely unbecoming of the forum at large, especially when people aren't willing to stand up to others who are obviously only here to disrupt and cause fear. My point is that NOBODY is above being "unbalanced" at any point in time, but we should make the efforts, and with that I think it is also a good effort to make to attempt to bring light to that which is shrouded in darkness - that specific thing being the "gender war", and what oppression consists of - and also, to discourage others from embracing falsity.
Offer a balanced opinion??? She flat out insulted me!! And that's all she did and you said nothing about it. I don't know anything about the SMC witchhunt which means she's obviously been a problem for others in the past, yet you fail to stand up for me when this person clearly signed up just to insult me!
Quote:I just want everyone reading to imagine if the opposite had happened. What if I made a big post, rallying all the women, telling them how they are victims, about how in this Age of Trump we are all vulnerable to being even more victimized, how we need to fight back against men our oppressors, etc?
This is already happening!
Quote:Ah yes and let me include some cliched photos of men hitting women, secretaries with skeezy male bosses leering at them, and maybe some Mad Men-esque type pictures of ad execs creating sexy images for toothpaste. Maybe I'd throw in that meme with that dude checking out the other girl while his girlfriend recoils in horror. Would that go over well on the forum at all? It is a balanced or sincere attempt at discussion? Or is it merely trying to incite people who are already vulnerable to being triggered by such a discussion?
Why don’t you try it and see what happens? I can assure that I wouldn’t need some dude trying to tell me whether or not this is valid information and am quite capable of thinking for myself which you obviously don’t feel that other women are capable of doing.