12-09-2017, 10:54 AM
Joseph, forgive me, I try earnestly, but I don't even know what to say for you. First of all, I wish you would actually respond to the things I said in my post, instead of just getting triggered by what I have to say and ranting at me. I learn very little from your rants, except to hold my tongue when I feel I have something to say to you most times. To be honest, you seem to be the one who is the most upset by gender dichotomy in this thread at all, which is why I made my misguided attempt to help. Dante posted what was very obviously a troll bait thread, and you decided to use this space, and you KNEW that what you had to say would likely generate a response.
I guess my main concern is that you are hyperbolizing situations and really causing yourself a lot of pain by looking at reality through a distorted lens. You mentioned pop culture references and I really did not find trouble with what you say. I cannot think of an episode where Captain Picard was cowed by Luxuana's sexuality (though, cowed by her intimidating, overtly male energy nature, yes) and Odo falls in love with Luxuana once she shows her real, mellowed self. He wants nothing to do with the overly sexual Luxuana. You know what I do remember from Star Trek TNG? Countless episodes where Deanna gets mind-raped by some entity. In fact, I just watched an episode last night, where they go to that sexy planet where nobody wears clothes and Wesley gets sentenced to death for crushing flowers. When Deanna arrives on the planet for the first time, a man comes and greets her and grabs her and pulls her close and kisses her intimately on the neck. (It was her first time on the planet, everyone else had become familiarized with their 'customs') She looked extremely uncomfortable and embarrassed. So we all have lenses of bias for which we can view pop culture. The fact is, subjugation of women in stories is so common that you don't even notice it. When the roles are switched, it obviously bothers you a lot because it's not used as often as a trope. I just want you to understand that women DO understand the way you feel, being a victim, all too clearly. But, it's really painful to watch you use your own victimhood to perpetuate the victimhood of yourself and others, of both genders.
Sincerely, I thank you for taking the effort to show us the imbalances with how men are portrayed in pop culture. However, my question would be, why do you think it's so repulsive for Kelso and Fez to dress up like women? How is that not okay for comic relief, in a completely fictional universe set in a different time period, but saying that it's impossible for Kevin Spacey to sexually assault you, when there are real victims of his assault, who are currently undergoing a LOT of catalyst at this moment, is okay? When do we consider a joke to be crossing the line?
I guess my main concern is that you are hyperbolizing situations and really causing yourself a lot of pain by looking at reality through a distorted lens. You mentioned pop culture references and I really did not find trouble with what you say. I cannot think of an episode where Captain Picard was cowed by Luxuana's sexuality (though, cowed by her intimidating, overtly male energy nature, yes) and Odo falls in love with Luxuana once she shows her real, mellowed self. He wants nothing to do with the overly sexual Luxuana. You know what I do remember from Star Trek TNG? Countless episodes where Deanna gets mind-raped by some entity. In fact, I just watched an episode last night, where they go to that sexy planet where nobody wears clothes and Wesley gets sentenced to death for crushing flowers. When Deanna arrives on the planet for the first time, a man comes and greets her and grabs her and pulls her close and kisses her intimately on the neck. (It was her first time on the planet, everyone else had become familiarized with their 'customs') She looked extremely uncomfortable and embarrassed. So we all have lenses of bias for which we can view pop culture. The fact is, subjugation of women in stories is so common that you don't even notice it. When the roles are switched, it obviously bothers you a lot because it's not used as often as a trope. I just want you to understand that women DO understand the way you feel, being a victim, all too clearly. But, it's really painful to watch you use your own victimhood to perpetuate the victimhood of yourself and others, of both genders.
Sincerely, I thank you for taking the effort to show us the imbalances with how men are portrayed in pop culture. However, my question would be, why do you think it's so repulsive for Kelso and Fez to dress up like women? How is that not okay for comic relief, in a completely fictional universe set in a different time period, but saying that it's impossible for Kevin Spacey to sexually assault you, when there are real victims of his assault, who are currently undergoing a LOT of catalyst at this moment, is okay? When do we consider a joke to be crossing the line?