11-12-2017, 09:38 PM
(11-12-2017, 04:20 PM)Vasilisa Wrote: I am very surprised that at this forum the theme of the astral world and the astral body is little discussed. The astral world must be viewed from the point of view of awareness, not matter
I know. This theme was one of the first that I studied in the spirituality. I'm from Brazil and I studied the brazilian authors and the foreigners. Robert Monroe is one of the best. The reason this forum don't discusse this theme is because the core of him (the forum) are Ra's teachings and he didn't talk about astral projection.
(11-12-2017, 04:26 PM)anagogy Wrote: All I can do is share what I have learned. Feel free to disregard if it doesn't resonate.
As you must to know, I was take the fourth density as an etheric enviroment (from the concept of etheric body and ectoplasm) not astral. But reading not just esoteric and spiritual works about ascension but the L/L Research channelings, I came to the conclusion that fourth density is an astral enviroment. And now, I'm taking your point of view posted in another topic created by me :
Quote:Red Ray = Physical Plane/Prime Material/This is also the Etheric Plane (as is commonly referenced in occult literature -- not the version Ra was talking about). This is the most congealed manifestation of form, or tangibility.
Orange Ray = Lower Astral Plane (Selfish Vibrations/Vibrations Concerning Self/Lust/Personal Power/Lower Emotional Realm)
Yellow Ray = Middle Astral Plane (Awareness of difference between Self and Other/Societal Vibrations/Personhood in relationship to groups of entities/this is where you begin to see astral cities or conglomerations of souls living together/Lower mental plane.)
Green Ray = Higher Astral Plane (Awareness of others vibrations/empathy/understanding of what another is experiencing/unconditional love/astral heaven type worlds/awareness of harmony/higher emotional plane).
Blue Ray = Devachanic Plane/Mental Plane/vibrations of free communication and pure conceptual ideals/repository of the "pure vibrations" of a thing at a conceptual level/conceptual archetypes after which every further instance of a particular idea is a patternization of, i.e., Plato's ideas of "ideal forms")
Indigo Ray = Causal Plane (Awareness of self as an expression of Intelligent Energy/awareness of self as creator/what Ra called the "etheric body" or the place where light is given form. Think of it as an "eye" or "shutter" that focuses light, giving it form, which is why it is the primal Form Maker.
Violet Ray = Buddhic Plane or alternatively the "Atmic Plane" or the level of 'Christ Consciousness'. Realm of wholeness, and awareness of connection with everything. This is where the m/b/s totality resides. An awareness of the totality of experiential balance. This is the most intangible and "not constrained by form" level.
(11-12-2017, 04:26 PM)anagogy Wrote: Fourth density is intimately connected with the higher astral plane.
And about STS entities? I wondering if they inhabit the lower and middle astral planes? Because they don't work with the green ray appropriately.
(11-12-2017, 04:26 PM)anagogy Wrote: Even though densities and dimensions are *not* the same thing, they are correlated. Meaning with every sequential density, there is a corresponding 90 degree geometric relationship associated and potentiated.
Yes, Laitos spoken something like this in a channelling:
Quote:In some instances, there is the exchange of entities from the, shall we say, ship or position in what you call time and space with the, shall we say, home density or planetary vibration. Therefore, there may be more entities lending assistance to the ship or specific mission than are actually, shall we say, aboard that craft or in that location. The location is also a point to be considered, for the location can be in various frequencies or densities or realities as you would call them. Your own planetary vibration has its space/time location which you now inhabit, and has its time/space location which may generally be described as the astral through devachanic levels of your so-called inner planes. Your planet has inner planes of each density level.
(11-12-2017, 04:26 PM)anagogy Wrote: All the physical planes, across all the densities, occur in the same physical plane, more or less (though this is, indeed, an oversimplification). Think about it , you can see rock stuff, animal stuff, and people stuff (as you can see, I firmly believe "stuff" should be a standardized unit of physical measurement ). All these physical crystallizations of different density patternizations in the same physical plane. Isn't that remarkable? In fact, you would be able to see ALL of the densities physical expressions were not the 4th through 7th veiling this spectrum of physical reality from you. In fact, sometimes tangible visitors from 4D enter our visible spectrum of physicality and do physical things to us (alien abduction/contact). Sometimes they even get stuck in 3rd density physical visible spectrum, and get abducted themselves (by the "gubmint" -- oh the sweet sweet karmic irony).
This is the reason I was confounding the fourth density as and etheric world. Thanks a lot my brother!