(11-11-2017, 09:17 PM)Philalethist Wrote:(11-11-2017, 05:50 PM)Dante776 Wrote: In short, you don't believe me! Sounds a lot like Philalethist's position.
Awww, I'm sorry if you got the impression that I don't believe you. That's not true. I'm simply offering aid in my own special way. I am aware that it is unlikely that my words will immediately bring the machinations of your own prideful ego to your awareness thus allowing you to transcend them and view your situation with ever greater clarity. At the least, it is my hope that simply by increasing your exposure to such information and possibilities that perhaps it may catalyze within you and transcendence may come sooner than would otherwise have been the case.
"I got quite a chuckle out of it!" I'm glad you enjoyed it!
"I appreciate what you are trying to say...I just think you latched onto the wrong word to make your point." I say this in all sincerity: what would the more accurate word have been to describe what I was attempting to communicate? (Precise communication is usually important to me.)
"I think that everyone on this forum that has an opinion, including you, has some degree of pride." Absolutely, but the degrees definitely vary. I, personally, have worked quite a bit to be conscious of my pride, it used to be more of an issue. By studying and noticing the machinations of the ego I come steadily (but very slowly) closer to transcending it (I hope.)
"Once again, we all have our core beliefs and unless something pretty profoundly comes across our eyes, we're probably going to cling to our beliefs." Are you suggesting that such clinging is preferable? Even if it is probable, if such beliefs were not true would you not prefer to abandon them? Will you simply wait for something profound to come before your eyes before exploring the possibility that your current perceptions may be inaccurate? I don't think waiting is necessary. We can all start sifting through our illusory perceptions right now, to say you have none is to say that you are fully enlightened.
"Like the old saying goes, 'those who stand for nothing will fall for anything.'" Perhaps it would be best to constantly fall than to hold to a pillar of shadows and illusion. Only the proud would be afraid of falling for 'anything' and thus appearing as a fool. The truly courageous would take such a risk as to be fooled over and over and over again and be ridiculed and shamed in the pursuit of the truth. Only those who are afraid cling to their beliefs. Those beliefs become a part of their identity, and so they defend their beliefs as though they were defending themselves. To find the truth we must relinquish our attachment to beliefs. If I say a belief is Mine, then when the belief is threatened, I will feel under attack and must defend it. If I simply say it is A belief, and do not claim ownership of it, then the belief is free to fall away if it is shown to be illusory. Nothing real can be threatened. Nothing unreal exists.
"So, you're arguing against human nature, because we all have opinions, and we all have questions that must be resolved in our minds." All spiritual aspirants seek to transcend what is conventionally depicted as "human nature." Of course we all have opinions, questions, etc. I am suggesting that you let all of them go.
I understand that you have studied and experienced a great deal of metaphysical phenomena. My studies do not include such things as the 7 archangles, the names of demons or archons or any of those things. I haven't the slightest clue about any of it. What I do study are the machinations of the ego. Now, of course (and this may sound patronizing or something) I am aware that what I believe may be completely unfounded and inaccurate, but it seems extraordinarily apparent to me, from reading all of the posts in this thread, that pride is quite a bit more than a minor blockage for you; and surely if you were aware of such a blockage you would have already addressed it. There is no shame in discovering that one's perceptions and attitudes were not quite as pristine as one believed. This is not to say that any of your beliefs are false! Every single thing you believe may be true, but that would not change the fact of this blockage.
(Unless I'm wrong of course.)
I think you're mistaking confidence with pride...
6 truths about confidence
The confident person
measures their choices and actions with wisdom.
weighs input from others, and moves towards the Truth.
doesn’t proceed through selfish ambitions. (Philippians 2:3-4)
realizes they can’t do it alone.
knows who they are, and who they aren’t. They’re “confident” where God has gifted them.
works to build others up. (Ephesians 4:12-13)
5 truths about pride
The prideful person
never says they’re wrong.
doesn’t accept input, but goes at everything alone. They makes decisions in a vacuum.
bristles when taking advice/correction.
doesn’t take others into account.
craves public and/or private recognition for the works they’ve done.
I have no problem taking advice from others, but if someone is going to misdiagnose the situation, sort of like what you're doing, and call me prideful, misinformed, schizophrenic, delusional or just outright insults me, then I do have a problem with that and am well within my right to correct them or defend my position. I don't know if you've noticed it from other threads, but that goes on quite a bit on this forum. We're all just sharing our experiences and views on different topics...sometimes it turns into a mild debate. Sometimes it get's a little heated. So, this kind of exchange may not be for everyone. Especially if they can't take it the way they deliver it. This forum is not for the faint of heart that's for sure.
Ref:
The difference between pride & confidence