10-17-2017, 07:14 PM
(10-15-2017, 07:28 PM)Coordinate_Apotheosis Wrote: I would like to point out that quote is in relation to negative polarity entities becoming harvested. If we are discussing the mechanics of a positive harvest relationship, that quote may be misleading as to the requirements to become harvested as a positive polarity being.
I believe that it's a general rule. The question 34.2 seems to indicate this:
Quote:34.2 Questioner: Thank you very much. We’ll start general questioning now. You stated at an earlier time that penetration of the eighth level or intelligent infinity level allows a mind/body/spirit complex to be harvested if it wishes at any time/space during the cycle. When this penetration of the eighth level occurs what does the entity who penetrates this experience? Can you tell me this?
Ra: I am Ra. The experience of each entity is unique in perception of intelligent infinity. Perceptions range from a limitless joy to a strong dedication to service to others while in the incarnated state. The entity which reaches intelligent infinity most often will perceive this experience as one of unspeakable profundity. However, it is not usual for the entity to immediately desire the cessation of the incarnation. Rather the desire to communicate or use this experience to aid others is extremely strong.
(10-15-2017, 07:28 PM)Coordinate_Apotheosis Wrote: To answer your further questions:
I: Opening the Gateway to Intelligent Infinity is equated to basically, from Indigo Ray kundalini levels, the user attains a proper vibration that causes the Violet Ray to 'open like a gateway' where the kundalini of the user can then move into violet ray then, with further attempts to penetrate the above white ray chakra, if able to do so can contact intelligent infinity (supposedly directly through the physical incarnation, not sure about this though.) So there is a difference.
Thanks.
(10-15-2017, 07:28 PM)Coordinate_Apotheosis Wrote: II: This question is unintelligible to me
I'm sorry for that. English isn't my first language, so mistakes can happen. But you was very receptive and understood my question:
(10-15-2017, 07:28 PM)Coordinate_Apotheosis Wrote: Assuming you are asking if simply experiencing the opening of the Gateway (Violet Ray) is enough to ascend the octave, my answer is no, it is not enough, you must move further and penetrate the eighth chakra above the violet ray (the White Chakra), which is equated to penetrating into intelligent infinity.
(10-15-2017, 07:28 PM)Coordinate_Apotheosis Wrote: III: This is correct. Ra's quote you used in this post I quoted was in relation to sts polarity mechanics. However, there does seem to be some mechanism of ascending the MAJORITY OF THE OCTAVE that seems to be linked with this kundalini penetrating the eighth chakra of intelligent infinity. I think it becomes a judgment call by the user of that kundalini, they can choose to become harvested is the typical reward (or chose not to be harvested), but for some who seem to do it to a certain high level degree, they seem to have access to skip the majority of the Octave (such as in the book 'The Aaron, Q'uo Dialogues') and ascend right into 7D.
Thanks.
(10-15-2017, 07:28 PM)Coordinate_Apotheosis Wrote: the main 'work' of the typical positive incarnation is to move kundalini into green ray and hold it there enough so to signal the violet ray aspect of the entity that it is ready to be harvested according to the already setup system. That is the main point, all energy work above green is optional. You're not asked as a typical person whom is trying to become harvested to do Work in Consciousness, you're only asked to, at the best of your ability to do so properly, provide unconditional love to others.
(10-15-2017, 07:28 PM)Coordinate_Apotheosis Wrote: So to answer your third question again, yes, the sto polarity only needs to do two things:
Move Kundalini up into Green Ray and be able to maintain it there for a time.
Manage to do this with at least 50% of all interactions with others (and I assume the self too.)
I understand. So, in this case it's necessary WAIT the Harvest to become a 4D entity?
Thanks a lot!