(10-12-2017, 11:12 PM)Aion Wrote:(10-12-2017, 10:34 PM)Dante776 Wrote: [quote='Aion' pid='234241' dateline='1507795707']
Well first off, you seem to be referring to all of this in reference to New Age and E/T styled channelers, but the concept of angels and demons is much older than all that.
The composition of angels is the same whether in ancient times or now. Remember, they're interdimensional so the same being(s) interacting with you or I in 2017 can traverse the time spectrum and interact with someone in Egypt 4,500 BC, Babylonia 2,000 BC or Greece 1,500 AD.
Quote:Second, I can buy what you are saying about a particular group or entity, but what you seem to imply is this is ALL there is, and I just don't think that is the case. For example, what about other deities such as in other pantheons and religions? What about all the forms of spirituality which have nothing to do with extra-terrestrials?
Who said they had nothing to do with extraterrestrials? On the contrary. From what I understand humanity was seeded by the Sirians. Somewhere along the way their experiment was hijacked by fallen angelics, led by the Anunnaki. ANU, ENKI and ENLIL symbolically represent a triad of gods analogous of the Universal Mind Matrix as it has manifested in various cultures and religions over millenia.
For example, the sacred Hindu triad formed by Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva is identical to Sumerian Anunnaki triad ANU, ENKI and ENLIL. Wes Penre does a great job in tracing many ancient gods to the Anunnaki triad. The Anunnaki story forms the basis of the biblical "fall of man" which led to the Luciferian rebellion and the so called "war in heaven". Their Nephalim hybrids would go on to become the ruling elite and the Illuminati. I personally believe that the Illuminati along with the Orion group and other fallen angelics are behind many spiritual attacks.
Quote:Third, I know I've already said it, but I'm not really concerned with blame either way, I just want to alleviate suffering whenever possible. However I do get the sense that this has been a particular point of grievance for you since it is one you continue to respond strongly to. I assure you my advice is not intended as any sort of blame game but is only according to my understanding of how to work upon such foreign installations. I have seen and experienced fantastical things, the universe is a strange place. Do not mistake my belief that you might be able to do something about it for blaming you for your condition. I know you were just illustrating a point, but to be clear.
Oh no, I got that really. I was just saying what exactly can you do when you've done just about everything you can do. Maybe this is something Source beings wanted me to go through. I notice that the more I push back, increase my knowledge, and post and share this information that the darker energies slowly begin to recede and lighter energies and frequencies are slowly beginning to emerge (they still have limited control of my body, however).
Quote:Like I said before, I believe there is a group of imposters, a gestalt intelligence as you call it, that mimics and steals the identities of other entities for its own use. I can tell you it is very frustrating to be so highly misrepresented. Note, I'm not saying "positive" and "negative" or "good and evil", my description here of imposters is that of deception. Consider that in light of what you have said.
I'm in agreement with you about our reality being hijacked by certain entities. But the point I'm making is that higher dimensional beings such as Sirians, Archangels, Ascended Masters, and even the Ra Confederacy have allowed this to happen. All for the purpose of steering us along a desired path, to solidify external systems of power and control. Duality also allows us the opportunity of appreciate light because we are in darkness. This system of duality is just a game to them but to us it's very real.
Quote:Anyways, I guess you're just f***** then, eh? I can understand how you'd be exasperated.
I could always take a whack at it and see if I can do anything for your situation, but I'm not sure there'd be any point without some confidence in the attempt.
How does that work if I may ask? Also, I'm just curious, how would you know if this isn't something being directed from the higher self or oversoul level? Have you ever run into that before?
Quote:As an example, your quote from 'Michael' there. Maybe it's an entity using the name of Michael and masquerading as such in order to lead the individuals in to a false sense of security with such absolute messages? Just because an entity gives a name, doesn't mean it is the entity you think or expect it to be. Even 'Ra' says if you want to have power over an entity you use its name.
That's true, but the same can be said about the people that gave us ALL of our scriptures. After all they were just channeling certain beings in the same manner as Carla Rueckert. Which means you can say the same thing about the Ra. Anyway, let's say you're right and it's not the gestalt entity known as Archangel Michael, that still shouldn't negate the "real" Michael and all other higher celestial beings from intervening, especially when you do everything you can to call on them. Wouldn't you agree?
Quote:Honestly I think the point where I disagree is the notion of the power dynamic between dark and light in this regard. That is to say, I actually don't think the 'higher beings' are actually as able to reign in the free will of other entities as you seem to suggest. I think that this particular point of 'comforting' has been used by those attempting to control as a ruse to lull people in to a false sense of security. I believe that Light always illuminates darkness but I think the technicalities of that are a little more complex than just a raw notion of 'power'. Notice how those channelings always measure it in terms of 'power'.
Haven't we heard thousands of stories going back to ancient days where higher beings have intervened in the affairs of humans? After all, if the 'dark' beings can interfere with us, it seems to me that technically the 'light' beings should be able to do the same thing. Especially if requested.
Quote:I'm going to throw a maybe crazy sounding idea out there, but what if those positive beings aren't still 'up there'? I have a belief that in an attempt to quell the spreading darkness certain entities chose to start incarnating which otherwise would not have. Maybe you have been heard, but you're not looking in the right place for the response?
You have found your way to me, afterall, and that is never a coincidence. My life is synchronistic, not coincidential.
I hear you. And I am open to your suggestions.
Quote:As for how that works, there is power in formulating a consensus reality even if just among two individuals, through this mechanism you have a much better chance of countering their reality controls. Thus, with no trust, there is no working together and thus no benefit likely to be gained. Through the combination perhaps something more could be done.
I'm open to whatever will yield results.
Quote:Perhaps the whole experience has been something 'arranged' for you to learn something, that's not an unknown notion to me. However, that is not the sense that I get off of you. Rather it seems to me there is some significance in the fact that you have found your way here and seem to be trying to 'break free' from that reality.
True!
Quote:I can only offer my intuitive notion that it seems that whatever is there over you doesn't 'need' to be there. I have a pretty developed intuition and I have met people where they were having issues and I was unable to do any work because of the response of their higher self. I just don't get that response from your field.
Are you able to identify the source?