(10-13-2017, 02:56 AM)smc Wrote:(10-12-2017, 12:36 AM)Coordinate_Apotheosis Wrote:(10-09-2017, 10:12 PM)Dante776 Wrote:(10-09-2017, 09:57 PM)Coordinate_Apotheosis Wrote:(10-09-2017, 06:46 PM)Dante776 Wrote: Sorry that you take it that way man. But I'm not trying to frighten anyone. I'm just stating the facts about what has happened or is happening to me and looking at it from the perspective of the Ra material. Now, if you interpret that as fear based. That's unfortunate, because that is far from what I'm doing.
I see it as having an intellectual discussion about some very deep experiences just as many others on this forum have shared about their own experiences and I don't see it as fear based peddling. You've already made it clear that you don't believe that demon possession is real and that it's all in the mind so I can see why you feel this way.
We have talked to you, you have basically called us all ignorant. I don't think there's anything more to discuss.
Your words, not mine. Again, sorry you feel that way. Not my intentions.
-clears throat-
Forgive me for what I'm about to do. Moderators, forgive me. I'm turning off Sweet and turning on Sour.
I believe 'ignorant' is your word. Such as said to SMC and Aion. I could quote you and highlight every post in this thread by you nullifying discussions with you paraphrased as "You don't understand what I'm saying."
What's up with your attitude? I'm supposed to be the irrational hypocrite around here, mister!
You know what I think? I think you don't want to hear what we have to say because deep down inside you know you've lost your grip on reality. I think you're in so far over your head in your mind that you can only rationalize it with spirituality phenomena without any substantial shred of evidence beyond 'evil demon God control me make me do bad things' but I think that's your rationalization.
I think YOU don't know what you're talking about anymore than anyone else and YOU just want our confirmation of your biases to rationalize them further.
What's next? Your bed spontaneously combusts? Your head turns 720 degrees? You're possessed? A possessed person has a modicum of desperation which includes accepting things they normally don't accept. You have denied EVERYTHING except when people speak of your issues as being anything but true, and even then you deny their aid and help.
I think you know precisely what you're doing and no 'you're talking about yourself' mirror syndrome excuse will suffice at this point. I've been kind, I've been open, you've taken and not given anything except your spit and spite of total irrational denial.
You're lazy, you're not STO, you're illogical, irrational, and fishing for attention, and I'd precisely know how to spot it because I see myself in you.
Well HELLO ME, HERE'S THE TRUTH
You belong in a mental institution for [obsession and trauma, you need counseling and professional help] of PURELY a psychological nature because NOTHING IS WRONG WITH YOUR SPIRIT, but your mind.
Paranoid, hostile, reclusive, manipulative, dishonest, obsessed, and intently overzealous with narcissistic tendencies of knowledge, megalomania, delusions, and utmost mania in belief of God's and Goblins using pseudoscientific hogwash labels to make a narrative of unreal realities overlapping your actual reality.
That you are sick in the mind from trauma, and you've fled into pure maniacal fantasy and rewritten your own history in your mind to compensate.
I feel no entities from you, I've damned and dared demons to no retaliation. You speak of things you know nothing about except that you read them somewhere. Whether or not it's true is moot, I don't believe your's is a legitimate case otherwise you wouldn't play it out so casually and commonly like 'oh just another part of my life, SOMEBODY HELP ME!'
You are lonely, crying wolf, and the only way it's ever going to get better is if you stop running away from life into fantasies of why you can't handle it, and accept that EVERYTHING YOU BLAME ON YOUR POSSESSION IS ACTUALLY YOUR OWN DOING.
Until you aren't scared to be real, you'll always have some kind of 'problem'. I'd know as a perfect example. So whatever your issue is, and I know this post is just to feed you energy because deep down YOU'RE the possessor taking from everyone around you and giving back spite, I hope you as a soul see through your patterns and lessons that you've now ensnared yourself into and come to live a full happy incarnation free of your present narration of LIES and self deceit.
No, for real, you don't need a exorcism, you need God. You're the demon, you're not the victim the way you promote yourself to be.
And if you are, do, something, about it, go live life, get diagnosed schizophrenic, be nice to everyone when you're not being a monster, live on disability, take a walk, freak out at monsters that are you just unable to accept being a part of yourself.
And stop calling yourself possessed. The only thing possessed here is everyone buying into your fanciful story of monsters.
God save you from yourself. Amen, and peace. I'm being mean because you deserve some blunt honesty if you're going to be a snide jerk. Sorry too but I do believe you've disillusioned yourself into a whole new delusion of madness that you're so obsessed with as being true has entrapped you from something even worse that you've chosen to avoid at all costs, even calling yourself possessed.
I've said my piece and given my energy. Show us how STO you are towards me right now, otherwise, good day sir. I hope it's bright and sunny with God's love because all the darkness in the world can't block that out.
I don't agree with all of C_A's words but have highlighted the ones I do resonate with. Even the parts that I don't; I see as valid expression and response to a person who is being very difficult to interact with - yet insists it is we that are the problem.
This is why I said I sense a 'vampiric' function to Dante776's posting - the arrogance and snideness doesn't sit with a disempowered supposedly desperate victim.
I also don't sense any current external entities causing the condition - but that the 'demon' is self created/self perpetuated (though perhaps from an original infringement) - I won't go further to view/fact-find - unsafe/tiring/waste of time anyway - I do sense that negatives are nearby 'in attendance'... I sense a thought-form is the supposed 'hand on the neck' - this is a fear creation - created by Dante776 (imo).
I understand frustration could make the OP be rude or exasperated - but there is so much aggression and disdain - verging on malice in his replies that I feel it was either the personality precursor to the phenomena; or personality development since original infringement; or that the OP is actually being used by entities (neg) to attempt to bring fear and disharmony to this forum. I have considered that we may even be interacting with a negative - (and the overall tone does nothing to remove that possibility) - but I won't energetically interact (to determine that) as it's not my 'area of interest/exploration'.
To sow the seeds of doubt/fear and in particular belabour the repeated theme that 'NOTHING WORKS'... is (effectively) a direct "greeting".
Yes, this forum is equal to meeting the "greeting" with Love/Light.
Quote:There is one energy. It may be understood as love/light or light/love or intelligent energy. - Ra
I did not need to be harsh - (and took Aion's advice to heart) - but I've always (unrealistically) wanted B4th to be a sanctuary - as I live with a lot of challenging offline stuff - I get full-on here bcoz IRL I don't allow negative behaviour to be around me.
Self care - Self respect - Self preservation.
So I know I can be a 'firebrand' - direct - intense - but I'll remind members I made several comments clearly offering respect to the OP - so in light of that, the continual rude, dismissive replies are even more unfair - especially for example -the sexism of making sure to identify me by gender and age "Lady give me a break" compared to the less dismissive/aggressive responses to any male (replies) who (also) haven't agreed with him.
Give you 'a break'? I'm giving time to care enough to expend energy to try to help you!
So, given this basic rudeness/character flaw - why/how should we accept his insistence he's believable - right minded? Stable enough to ascertain that he's possessed ?
I also 'smell a rat' that there's no openness to our ideas/advice/feedback - yet complete faith in many other ideas - experts etc.
All the fantasy artwork etc. new-age ideologies and links; yet no thorough sharing of his history as to who he is/how this all unfolded 14 years ago - and instead deflecting, or saying he already answered that - when asked yet again to answer that (!) is also suspiciously evasive - and as I said (right before I was so rudely replied to) - if you review all his posts - their content/intent and closed minded views since arrival to this forum - how else should/could I assess his objective as anything but as he, himself, has stated - to discuss/warn of "the perils and pitfalls"?
To be so arrogantly replied to when I point out this FACT (of the content of all his posts) to him - and instead, deny the ACTUAL WORDS he wrote (that can still be seen!) - is plain dodgy.
More I could say - but sun is shining - going outside to relax now.
It's clear and obvious that YOU and Coordinate_Apotheosis are trying to goad me into a fight. And that's not what I'm on here for. I think both of you have [obsession and trauma, you need counseling and professional help] issues that are beyond the scope of this forum.
I think both of you are Paranoid, hostile, reclusive, manipulative, dishonest, obsessed, and intently overzealous with narcissistic tendencies of knowledge, megalomania, delusions.
I believe that you two have disillusioned yourself into a whole new delusion of madness that you're so obsessed with as being true has entrapped you from something even worse that you've chosen to avoid at all costs. These are all your [adopted] words.
Why are YOU the only one that Coordinate_Apotheosis comment's resonate with, SMC? Because both of you obviously share the same psychopathy. You are both like pouting little children ready to snatch up all the marbles and throw a hissy fit when the game isn't going your way. Because I don't buy into your 'Psychological' narrative. Listen, I will not be upset with you if you choose not to participate in this conversation! Honestly!! To continue to do so suggests to me that your just looking for conflict and are deriving some kind of enjoyment out of this. Do me a favor and take this madness somewhere else because like I told you before, I AM NOT YOUR ENEMY!
Where in any of my posts have I used the kind of incendiary, inflammatory and disparaging language toward you or anyone as you two have used against me? Where in any of my posts have I called anyone 'ignorant?' You're the one who tried to place me in your tight little box and label me as paranoid schizophrenic until you saw differently and changed your position. Coordinate_Apotheosis is the one who's trying to tell me that demon possession is just in the mind and that I should treat this as psychological issue Only. And is "Lady give me a break" the worst thing you can find that I said? Come on lady, give me a break, II.
Coordinate_Apotheosis sounds to me like an Illuminati handler that's embedded within certain groups to debunk and discourage people who attempt to come forward with these claims. He may perfectly well know what's going on but his job may be to debunk it so that others aren't tipped off by these revelations. I could be wrong but I've noticed how others on this particular thread have mentioned that they have had demonic encounters but he said nothing about them at all. However, he's quick to pick my particular case apart because he probably know's that there is something far more sinister here that he doesn't want the public to know about. Something that the Illuminati and their minions are doing to certain 'targeted individuals.' And the fact that he would go off on me the way that he has, when he know's nothing about me other than what I've shared in these posts is highly suspicious to me. Again, I could be wrong. Maybe he's just a natural skeptic and enjoys debunking such claims. Maybe he sees what he's doing as a noble calling somehow. I mean, the very name Coordinate_Apotheosis suggests that he is someone elevated to 'divine status' and 'coordinates' a set of values that show an exact position. HIS POSITION! Which we are supposed to accept as though it is the word of GOD HIMSELF!
You on the other hand may just be a case of misery loving company. Now, I'm not saying this to be mean. And I will refrain from using incendiary psychological terms like you and your friend Apotheosis (The GOD Man) like to do. So, why does misery love company and why might this apply to you? Perhaps it's jealousy. Perhaps it's envy. Perhaps it's resentment. Or a combination of all three, however, which factors are weighted more heavily than the others depends on the individual in question. After all, aren't you the one that said "I'm now estranged from my whole family! - sister mother father... no job for the last 25 years because of a violent workplace assault that took 10 years to be dealt with in a court case... it's 36 years since I had a complete nervous breakdown at 19... from all the abuse I'd already gone through at that point - and it only got worse and worse..." I actually sympathize with you SMC and wish you all the best. I see nowhere that it profits you or I to get into a battle of my pain is 'Greater' and more 'Valid' than your pain.
I think think the problem with both of you guys may just be that you are uninformed regarding this particular issue. That doesn't mean you're ignorant or stupid. I'm not saying that so don't twist my words. You're simply skeptical, that's all. And, it comes off as sounding rudely cynical, and down right insulting! I just think that you haven't been exposed to or have read much about people that have had similar experiences. The very nature of the 'skeptic' is that since nothing can be known for certain the only rational thing to do is to suspend judgment on everything. That may have been more the case in ancient times, but modern skeptics like Hume and others think that belief in X ought to be proportional to the amount of evidence supporting X. And as I said in previous post, there are enough examples out there to support my claims if you just do the research. If you're looking for some kind of 'physical' evidence from me, that's impossible to do over the Internet. I can only give you my testimony. And, even if you did meet me and witnessed physical signs of 'demonic' manifestation, you still probably wouldn't believe it without knowledge or reference to other credible experiencers. You would simply say that it's psychological or a physical illness.
So, allow me to share just a few other cases, to shed further light on this phenomenon, of others who have experienced it. Keep in mind that not all possessions are the same and not everyone handles it the same. Just because I'm not foaming at the mouth, suicidal, and sounding desperately crazed and instead, come off sounding clear minded and able to express some intelligence about this condition doesn't mean that I'm not experiencing it. That may be how YOU TWO would handle it. But others who are perhaps STRONGER than you might handle it differently. You have no idea of what I have been through 'over the years' with this. And to lay it all out would require me to write a book, which I can't do on this forum.
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