(10-09-2017, 05:39 AM)GentleWanderer Wrote:Quote:I will also admit that I agree that all those "Confederation" sources including the Ra Material are 'infected' with the same egregore that has been having a ball driving people all sorts of insane. You're not alone.
I know this a bit off topic. Can you explain more about the Ra material being infected be an egregore ? Ra's and confederation sources are said to be one of the most pure we have.
Oh someone did catch that.
It is true they are usually consider pure, but by whom? What is the standard of 'purity'? Pure in what way? Usually it comes from the channelers themselves, sometimes is in the channeling itself, but typically it stems from the individuals who are impacted by it and in their desire to have something 'concrete' latch on to this idea of purity. It is the same thinking that attaches people to the Bible or the Koran or any other body of spiritual knowledge. The fact that this 'purity' is highly defended in any situation in which the material is brought in to doubt or question gives me lots of suspicious impressions. It is people defending their 'holy book'.
Now of course you'll note that there are plenty of seekers who HAVE benefited from the philosophy and made much positivity out of it. So what exactly is going on here, right?
The problem is that there is this New Age philosophy that goes, only the message matters but not the messenger, and I think that's dangerous and stupid. "Free Candy!" is a very positive idea and message but not if it's coming from a pedophile, you dig? So I have an issue with people looking at the words of the material and saying it has a 'pure philosophy', whatever that even means. The whole concept of unity is not new, even in the material this is said. So if it's not unique information, why does everyone believe this source is so 'pure'? What's all this obsession with 'purity' anyways?
One of the ideas that's common around channeling is the fact that you might not always get the same entity, so the purpose behind rituals and protocols is to try and make sure you're always getting the same source. Along with this is the idea that imposters can get in there and mess with the message. Usually I think this is seen as a 'one at a time' kind of deal, but actually you can have a person who is channeling TWO or more currents which together produce the stream of thought. The idea of purity usually means consistently getting the same source. Now that is true for the Ra Material if you consider that it was likely mixed from the very beginning. It's just a poor standard to measure the value of a source in and of itself though. The other issue being that they actually didn't start with a protocol and Ra was the one who gave more basic tools to call them, and they weren't consistent, so I'm not lead to believe the contact was either. People say the message is pure, but really, they cherry pick and ignore the parts they 'don't resonate' with. Again, part of the New Age philosophy. You see how there seems to be some complimentary systems in place here?
So, in regards to the Ra Material, I think that is what happened. I think that there were many points in the material where this happened, if not throughout the whole thing. When I scry and perceive the material metaphysically it appears as two currents tightly interwoven, so unified as to be barely distinguishable. The one is a bright, perhaps 'pure' light as it were, and the other is like thick black inky oil. They strangely act like oil and water, they're not actually mixing, just so tightly bound together. So, I think that when people read the material they actually take on both of these currents. I think that the nature of the energy is to try and keep you in 'the light' and unaware of the destructive current. That is the allure.
There is also this idea that 'deep trance' channeling also known as mediumship is 'more pure' than that of conscious channeling. This is kind of a silly idea in my eyes since mediumship is a more unconscious process. In the eyes of old magic it is much more likely you will get a demon or imposter with unconscious channeling because you go backwards in to the Lower Self, the Nephesh and animal soul. Carla always described herself as 'going to stay with Ra' while Ra would come and speak through her body, so Ra was really in control the whole time. There were also the times when Carla would think of Ra or that they would answer and question and find herself slipping out of her body. Then she was told not to meditate on her own lest she come under attack. They didn't even start using a protection ritual until halfway through. Now of course, in the material itself the argument is given that the purity of the harmony of the group is to account for their apparent 'strength'. So were they messing with something that was beyond their abilities to handle? Ra offers explanations but no explanations for the explanations. The Ra Material ended up being the thing that BROKE the harmony of the group, doesn't anyone find that weird? Ra essentially gave them the ultimatum that they can either give up on the channeling to 'stop the attacks' or to continue ahead at their own peril. However in that it is insinuated that by giving up the channeling that they would be giving up their service to others. However, prepared to risk life and limb for 'purity' they forged ahead. It was in the most beautiful of spirits and love, but I really think they were mislead.
Anyways, I think that people who either have a large shadow or perhaps have done a lot of shadow work I think are more likely to pick up on the dark side because it will resonate more. Which is why I think we have some people who have an incredibly dark experience from the Ra Material, they tapped in to the negative current.
Think about it, "Ra" says they are not of the love or of the light. They define themselves as of unity. Now one might ask, why didn't Ra ever say anything or mention this? Except they did. The whole episode with the 5th Density being. I think that this entity was well aware of and acting towards the group before they ever even started the Ra Material.
So, on the one hand, yes, there is a very bright and pure light in the material for those fortunate enough to tap in to it, but that's not all that's there. I think actually the virtue of the Light had nothing to do with Ra either. This probably isn't going tobe happy to hear but I think that Carla herself was the current of Light and the "Ra" was actually the black current. It's Carla's light that shines through the material, not that of Ra. I'll be totally honest I have a strong suspicion that "Ra" and the 5th Density Negative friend were one and the same entity. That is probably balking for some to consider, but after much examination I am fairly certain. It 'piggybacked' on Carla's loving energy so when people perceived it they would get that blast of love and feel it is coming from "Ra".
I can say this because I met Carla, I worked with her energy and exchanged energy with her. The Light that is in the material is hers.
If you ask me, everyone would benefit more from learning about Carla and reading her works than studying the Ra Material. I think she (or maybe Don) kind of put Ra up on a pedestal and never realized it was really her doing it all along. If anyone in the situation is a true exemplar of a spiritual life, it is Carla, not Ra.
The reasons Carla and the others had for pursuing the Ra Material are more important than anything in the Ra Material.