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    Thread: How do you feel about death, your own, other peoples, in general?


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    10-08-2017, 05:20 PM
    (10-08-2017, 04:07 PM)Coordinate_Apotheosis Wrote: Death.  The power of change.

    Ir scares me more than anything, specifically the suffering.

    I think its admirable to help people in their final stages transition and make peace with their life while still alive.  I find though that once in it, it'll be more painful for the helper in a strange way.  You'd think death is the ultimate pain, but suicide seems to say otherwise, that death can be a release from pain.  Its those who survive who feel the true pain to the situation.
    I think that is true, which is even more why I would want to do this. The dying person has so much to process and make peace with but often their loved ones are already grieving or just cannot be open to the process because it hurts. Time is of the essence and if the family and friends cant perform that function I would feel I have help ease anothers transition by being there to see to their emotional and spiritual support needs.

    (10-08-2017, 04:07 PM)Coordinate_Apotheosis Wrote: In a way, the survivor, or in your case, the caregiver will witness things that might shake them. The questions of how and why things are these ways can really disturb a person.  Seeing another suffer into death, a sense of nihilism for the humanity can be touched.  It is the soul that lives on, the human though has gone and most likely is just a bunch of memories to a soul now.
    I already question the current death process. Mostly because we cling so badly. I wouldn't want to serve in an old age home unless the person was on their way out within a few months because I see those places as storage facilities. Life is beautiful, transition is beautiful, I don't see the clinging to life in an institution for a decade to be beautiful. Maybe I am not seeing them for the mirror they are offering though.

    (10-08-2017, 04:07 PM)Coordinate_Apotheosis Wrote: I find death has an ounce, and only if an ounce of dignity in it.  To not be lying dead on a street is better, yet I feel there is an odd grossness to people spending their last moments in a bed.  Would one prefer to die to a beautiful scene?  Are they truly comfortable with their final place of life?
    Ah I love bed. lol If pain is managed properly, and they are emotionally prepared there is no reason bed for the dying cannot be as comforting and nurturing as we make it for a child. Energy of those around you can make a huge impact on your experience moment to moment. I guess that would be one of the things I would want to ensure. Protect the energy around them so there is no over riding sense of anxiety and fear. I think it might also help those left behind to know their loved one was nurtured and ensured a proper gentle place to make the transition.

    I will say Im not exactly sure how to do this all. How to make it work. Hospice seems most likely he first step as the people there are in the process of passing but the ideal may be to do this in a persons home. I guess I will find out.

    (10-08-2017, 04:07 PM)Coordinate_Apotheosis Wrote: For me I'd kill myself inside if I had to watch others suffer and provide them a care that didn't fit my standard of fair.  Most hospice work is overflowing with people, you can't spend all your time with one person, and if you connect with them (which I think but am not sure is discouraged if you're a doctor or nurse) you'll be the one suffering in their wake.

    So, I couldn't do it.  Watching so many slowly suffer to death is one kind of hell I don't want to see.
    I kind of feel like my entire life purpose is to walk with people through their suffering. You cant always ease their situation or pain but you can hold them and love them through it. At least not leave them alone in their pain. I think that's really why I'm here so to do it at death where you can help them transition without fear, feeling loved and safe... seems no worse than watching what I see everyday cutters, alcoholics, suicidal people because their pain is unbearable. In those situations I can only help for a moment. Helping them pass to the next situation with no regrets and fear or things unsaid.... it might be more impactful and help their next experience start off more gently.

    (10-08-2017, 04:07 PM)Coordinate_Apotheosis Wrote: I've read that the chakras near death gape wide open before shutting down in death, perhaps it is our slowly leaving a body we so badly wanted to be in, that is the source of all the reasons why pain is so present nearing death...
    I think that is true. We resist out of fear of what is next and fear of leaving people behind, but our dogma about death has always encouraged that. I think its time to actively change the narrative.

    Thanks for sharing your thoughts. If my perspective is this polor oppisite to the standard it makes me feel like I'm not silly to think I could help. Thanks CA

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    How do you feel about death, your own, other peoples, in general? - by Glow - 10-08-2017, 01:44 PM
    RE: How do you feel about death, your own, other peoples, in general? - by Aion - 10-08-2017, 02:09 PM
    RE: How do you feel about death, your own, other peoples, in general? - by Glow - 10-08-2017, 03:00 PM
    RE: How do you feel about death, your own, other peoples, in general? - by Aion - 10-08-2017, 03:15 PM
    RE: How do you feel about death, your own, other peoples, in general? - by Cainite - 10-08-2017, 03:53 PM
    RE: How do you feel about death, your own, other peoples, in general? - by Glow - 10-08-2017, 04:48 PM
    RE: How do you feel about death, your own, other peoples, in general? - by Coordinate_Apotheosis - 10-08-2017, 04:07 PM
    RE: How do you feel about death, your own, other peoples, in general? - by Glow - 10-08-2017, 05:20 PM
    RE: How do you feel about death, your own, other peoples, in general? - by Aion - 10-08-2017, 04:25 PM
    RE: How do you feel about death, your own, other peoples, in general? - by Coordinate_Apotheosis - 10-09-2017, 12:09 AM
    RE: How do you feel about death, your own, other peoples, in general? - by isis - 10-09-2017, 02:50 PM
    RE: How do you feel about death, your own, other peoples, in general? - by Coordinate_Apotheosis - 10-09-2017, 03:55 PM
    RE: How do you feel about death, your own, other peoples, in general? - by AnthroHeart - 10-10-2017, 07:52 AM
    RE: How do you feel about death, your own, other peoples, in general? - by Cainite - 10-11-2017, 06:32 AM
    RE: How do you feel about death, your own, other peoples, in general? - by MangusKhan - 10-11-2017, 12:37 PM
    RE: How do you feel about death, your own, other peoples, in general? - by sjel - 10-13-2017, 12:40 AM
    RE: How do you feel about death, your own, other peoples, in general? - by AnthroHeart - 10-13-2017, 03:53 PM
    RE: How do you feel about death, your own, other peoples, in general? - by MangusKhan - 10-11-2017, 01:01 PM
    RE: How do you feel about death, your own, other peoples, in general? - by Aion - 10-11-2017, 01:07 PM
    RE: How do you feel about death, your own, other peoples, in general? - by smc - 10-11-2017, 09:53 PM
    RE: How do you feel about death, your own, other peoples, in general? - by smc - 10-13-2017, 12:33 AM
    RE: How do you feel about death, your own, other peoples, in general? - by Glow - 10-13-2017, 05:16 PM
    RE: How do you feel about death, your own, other peoples, in general? - by Aion - 10-13-2017, 06:29 PM
    RE: How do you feel about death, your own, other peoples, in general? - by anagogy - 10-13-2017, 07:32 PM

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