(09-24-2017, 05:59 AM)smc Wrote: Hi Dante776...
I don't think you are "weak" (I never said that).
I'm still (slowly) reading the Ra material - and have a strong feeling of resonance with it.
So far - over 4-5yrs I've never seen anyone here behave like 'devotees' of 'RA' - or the 'material'... -
I think UNTIL you have thoroughly read the ENTIRE material you should suspend the combative intensity and criticism of your current judgements.
35 years of research into metaphysics/religion/'new-age'/spirituality has shown me so many (provable) instances of delusion/cults/frauds/scammers/wannabes/false 'gurus'/cultural theft.
Humans capacity to deceive others (and ourselves) is an integral part of the landscape of Earth and the teach/learn of the conditions of incarnation here.
I've learnt just how much untruth (created by ego and/or for profit) there is available.
Everything is so fast now - information overload/exhaustion and subsequent lack of discernment from the multiplicity of 'sources' is a major risk.
There's not enough time in the day to fully contemplate even one piece of possible truth...
Regarding 'ultimate truth' - one of the most wise things someone can say is "I don't know"
but it's usually the last thing anyone wants to admit...
Could you consider that you're here insisting various 'sources' as truth - that are as unverifiable/unprovable as what you criticise?... that you're projecting a supposed zealotry on people here, without seeing that you're being zealous yourself about your own adopted beliefs/ideas...?
I acknowledge I was blunt about those you resonate with - but have FILES by the dozen with irrefutable proof of the dishonourable and duplicitous actions of countless metaphysical/religious 'figures'... I've done exhaustive research into dozens of supposed 'wise teachers' (et al) and my disappointment has been severe and repeated in the 35 years I've been seeking truth and understanding....
What I do know as useful is 'psychic hygiene' - and psychic boundaries.
Just as we function best with enough sleep, nutrition, hydration, shelter from heat and cold etc, assurance of personal safety, physical health, appropriate boundaries with other beings; so too, we need optimum conditions to sustain our emotional and spiritual health.
So in that regard; your situation deserves much compassion - from you to yourself - and from me/others to you...
I have been in hellish places and states... and it is not up for anyone to deny.
So - if you want, I offer my best wishes, respect, and empathy.
If you don't want that - no problem either.
Quote:I think UNTIL you have thoroughly read the ENTIRE material you should suspend the combative intensity and criticism of your current judgements.
Smc, I am very familiar with the Ra material having read it years ago. I often listen to the Law of One recordings which is easily accessible on YouTube. As I said, I don't have a problem with the Ra Material and I am a proponent of the Law of One. What I have a problem with is people who are too eager to go to war with you when you try and present a different perspective based on "personal" experience. Many "spiritual peoples" of traditional and New age affiliation, who think worshiping an ancient book, or surrendering personal power to an external "God," "ET," "Angel" or "channel" is the ultimate expression of spiritual development and will "make everything all right." Fear, the "Pleasure-Pain Principle" and Disinformation are the common control elements by which humans become easily misled into surrendering their power to something outside themselves. Once this "outside source" has your power, compliance with the approval of that source becomes, implicit.
Quote:35 years of research into metaphysics/religion/'new-age'/spirituality has shown me so many (provable) instances of delusion/cults/frauds/scammers/wannabes/false 'gurus'/cultural theft.
Humans capacity to deceive others (and ourselves) is an integral part of the landscape of Earth and the teach/learn of the conditions of incarnation here.
I've learnt just how much untruth (created by ego and/or for profit) there is available.
I'm about 30 years in myself. And I am not on this forum to delude, scam or make a profit. I'm not peddling a book nor looking for a following. I have NOTHING to personally gain from this. I'm on here purely for the LOVE of humanity. And to share MY experience with multidimensional conscious beings so that others can be aware of all of the ramifications of this phenomenon.
Quote:Could you consider that you're here insisting various 'sources' as truth - that are as unverifiable/unprovable as what you criticise?... that you're projecting a supposed zealotry on people here, without seeing that you're being zealous yourself about your own adopted beliefs/ideas...?
That's just it! That's the point I'm trying to make. The things that they write about are happening to me right now! This is not blind faith here. This is actual experience. 14 years ago as I was heavily engaged in community activism at the time, I began to receive psychic attacks. In time it turned into a full possession by this intelligence that seems to have merged with my mind-body-spirit complex. I don't here voices or anything, instead it spells a crude form of English by moving my toes, feet or legs. So, I spend a lot of time trying to decipher it's messages. It initially told me that it wanted to help me achieve all of my goals and plans but shortly afterwards it took a turn for the worst and started tormenting me psychologically by constantly lying, taunting me, making false promises, trying to mislead me, I could go on and on and on. They told me a number of troubling things. Many of which I know are true. I've been to hell and back thousands of times with this thing!! Most people would have clocked out by now, I'm sure!!! But I'm still here. They have told me that they were everything from the Ashtar Command, Galactic Federation of Light, Archangels, Elohim, Draco-Orion, Sirians, and yes, even the Ra Confederacy.
Now, are they tormenting me 24 hours a day? No. But it has been problematic enough that it has rearranged my entire life. All of my goals, dreams, and plans have been altered due to this "forced hosting" if you will. Do they always lie and deceive? No, in fact I have gotten many nuggets of truth over the years but they've made me work for it. They will tell a lot of lies with some truth and in time the truth will begin to surface and become more apparent. So, when I reference these different sources, I'm referencing material that I have found which speaks to exactly what I am going through, right now! Many of the "truths" that has come to me over the years can be found in some of those books and articles. And I just feel compelled to share this information so that we (or some of you, I should say) are not walking into anything blindly. Is there anything wrong with that?
Quote:So in that regard; your situation deserves much compassion - from you to yourself - and from me/others to you...
I have been in hellish places and states... and it is not up for anyone to deny.
So - if you want, I offer my best wishes, respect, and empathy.
Thank you.