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[sjel]

> I don't see a reason to leave Earth

Then don't, by all means; but then you're an Earthling. I am not. I came here with specific interests and a specific purpose. My main interest is in the technologies that evolve at the close of 3rd D, and can be used for the initial stages of interstellar travel in 4th D. Along with this also the social influences that prompted such developments, including especially music.

Well if you're talking about post-incarnation, then maybe you're right, my soul might go elsewhere. I don't know for sure. I kind of thought you were talking about this incarnation.

May you elaborate on what your interests in the musical consciousness are? There are several currently active music artists that I believe to be intensely aware Wanderers, assisting in raising the vibration of Earth consciousness to a very great degree. (Aphex Twin, Boards of Canada are the two main juggernauts from my point of view)

> I haven't heard of a single positive ET race recommending that we leave Earth to go live somewhere else.

I'm not the least bit interested in what other ET races - positive or negative - "recommend". I make my own decisions. You can obey whomever you like.

Well I guess I'm just wondering - on what basis do you recommend departing Earth? I don't think I grasp your stance. If you are talking about post-incarnation departure, then there is no need for preparation at all, as I understand it. You just... leave. You're a spirit once you leave the body. You can do anything after death.

And if you are talking about departure during incarnation - then I don't get what's the point of leaving. Your physical body will die shortly anyway, and you'll be just as free after death as you would have been had you stayed. I definitely feel like I'm missing something.

Also - who is it that you recommend leaves the planet Earth? What is your target population for this endeavor?

> I don't think the solution is to run away from a dying Earth.

Then don't. I'm NOT "running away". I'm just doing the job I came here to do; and frankly, it's none of your business. And as to the Hopi tradition, I'm not a Hopi, I have no interest in becoming a Hopi, and I'm sure they have no interest in me.

Please, TRY to understand, everyone else is NOT like you. You have NO RIGHT to pass judgment on the interests and actions of others. And just because you have formed opinions that you believe to be unquestionably correct (most apparently based on second-hand information) that DOES NOT make them so.

Everything's second-hand, isn't it? Only thing you can trust is yourself - firsthand. Besides, I did not ever make a claim to absolutely know. I used to put something like, "I have no idea what I'm talking about. So feel free to crumble my shaky understanding at will." at the end of every post, but I just stopped doing that in order to get a more direct reaction. I felt like I have to have some sort of foundation in order to engage in dialogue. I guess I could put that as my signature, though.

Regarding the Hopi tradition - I was just wondering what you thought about what he says about the fate of humanity. I'm not a Hopi, either, but I found myself agreeing with a lot of where he was coming from. (I too think he adheres too much to a concrete tradition instead of internal Source.)