This Logos is an individualized portion of intelligent infinity

[Ali Quadir]

Awesome, Ali! I think we're finally getting someplace.

I am now officially happy

I agree with all that. Here's a question for you though: Can the shaman experience the perspective of the apple, and the perspective of the apple tree, as well as the perspective of you, and of me, and of the wolf in the forest, and the forest itself, and all other perspectives, all at the same time?

This is a profound question! It reaches deep into the core. And the answer is no.. The shaman cannot be all those things.

But "the essence that was shaman" can become the apple the tree, you and me and the wolf in the forest the forest and all else.. simultaneously. He'll only stop being a shaman he'll then be the collective of those things he could even include his former self but he would then still not still be his former self.

The simple reason is that shamans perspective defines who he is. Shift it and change it. He cannot directly experience the perspective of another without actually becoming that other. He can experience the perspective of someone looking into another. But that won't mean he has that same perspective...

Now this is a biggie to wrap the mind around. Most people do not have the experience of changing their perspective to the degree shamans do. Can you imagine what it is like to be two entities at the same time? Just like fish cannot imagine that water exists. The baggage we carry, our beliefs stop us from changing. Shamans are trained to let go of those beliefs and take at face value all that they experience. To do this traditionally aspiring Shamen were ritually killed in a variety of ways. Those who could release themselves from their body and individual selves survived as shamen. The pyramid initiations were brutal like this too.. And after this these individuals do extraordinary things.

There's a shaman described in one of Castaneda's books who just came walking from the mountains one day. He didn't originate in this world, he is a shaman who learned to walk between the worlds and when he stumbled into this ours he liked it and set up shop.

You know what they call some modern shamans? Psychonauts. Because they're like astronauts navigating the psychic realms.

You cannot see what I see because you see what you see. If you were to see what I see, you would be me seeing and no longer you. Everything in your universe is relevant to you. Everything in my universe is relevant to me. And just like it is the same infinite whole, whologram, we are the same entity our manifestation distorted in unique ways that are encoded in our cosmic dna or lightbody.

Your true essence is not trapped in this cage because it already sees both through me and through you. Now. One means singular always. You cannot separate a hologram. You can only theoretically bring two together. But since everything was one at the start you can't even do that, you can only reconnect, or recombine, or remember.

And not just that. This essence observing you from me, and me from you, is the exact same essence that is tomorrow looking back on today. if you will do something now or decide not to do something now. IAM observes from all points in the universe at the same time. There is only singular consciousness. An expanded consciousness can perceive where it's tomorrow self is, and the place that it is most clearest is where most of tomorrow self is tomorrow self isn't singular it is distorted like a spectrum. So divination, it works. But also it is not perfect, the unlikely can happen. Certainly if we choose to make it happen.

So in order to become a shapeshifter or psychonaut, a possibility selector, to become something else, we must learn to stop believing we are who we believe we are. Get rid of the anchor. We are not this manifestation, we are the living essence that chose this manifestation.

This is not something we should begin to do. We're all doing it but semi asleep now. This should be something we do consciously. We should awaken. Because that means we will literally be able to navigate the flow of possibility, in effect we'd all gain control over extreme variants of psychic power. That we up until now use subconsciously as our anchor into our lives, even when we don't happen to like our lives.

Holograms and fractals are absolutely not the same thing. A fractal is a thing that has infinite complexity but can be described completely in simple terms. The universe is not such a thing. A hologram is a thing that requires the same order of information as it contains detail..

OK, thanks for the clarification. You have told us that hologram not = fractal and you've told us what a fractal is. Can you now tell us what a hologram is?

I kinda already did but I will try again.

The hologram was initially taken to mean only the holographic image since thats where we discovered the principle. A holographic image is an image that looks different if you look at it from a different angle, or supply it with light from a different angle. So the angle that the light that bounces off the image and goes towards your eyes is of a different color or intensity than the light that bounces of the exact same spot but under a different angle. You must have seen them, they're magical little things.

Also this neurophysicist Pibram was doing experiments on the human brain. He wanted to discover where memories were stored. He discovered that the brain stores information throughout the brain. No specific part of the brain actually contains the information. Instead it's stored in all parts simultaneously, and not as copies because that would imply a single part holds everything.. You cannot damage memories by cutting out parts of the brain. A lot of unlucky animals clarified this.

I could go even nerdier and explain how the brain uses the exact same formulas (fourier transformations) to decode information that quantum scientists need to use to decode what's going on in the world. The 3d world you see with your eyes is encoded into signals that transfer across the optic nerves in ways that do not resemble the original or any computer signal but that resemble quantum computers.

And a physicist named Bohr came to similar conclusions. Essentially the quantum mechanical universe is a non event without the observer... The perspective Essentially the whole universe is the result of the observer. The observer is the creator. And every thing that he sees must therefore be defined by he himself.

Laszlo and his Buddapest club of physicists are exploring exactly this and writing books about it that the lay person can understand.

The universe is a big blob of information, possibilities. Any thing we can imagine and a lot of things we can't fit snugly inside of it. So the whole, if you could see it all, would be a great screaming event, all things seeming to be in the process of happening at the same time. Kinda like a big bang, enormous, incomprehensible, screaming and ecstatic, this is the mystical experience of the universe. The dance of Shiva. Just above this level, looking from the outside in, it is a non event, everything balances out. It does no longer exist. So every space that is empty probably contains a gazillion universes. It's just ours that we chose to observe with our individualized portion of the central sun.

If you were able to make a slice in this chaos, and apply some order. Then this slice would be what we call a distortion of the whole. It would select some information and filter out other information. All things simultaneously thus becomes distorted into a more individualized here and now and future and past, and possibility. Add more distortions and at every step you build your perspective until you see from a 3d human point of view. And even here perspective is highly flexible considering that almost all of us actually become slightly different people in our different daily contexts.

If you were born as the daughter of Cleopatra, if she even had one , would you be you? Most certainly yes, would you be different? Also most certainly yes... Same happens when you go visit those neighbors you don't really know that well, only on a much smaller scale.

The rest of the universe outside of the here and now is filtered out by your perception, your distortion, but it is still inside of you. If you change perspective you can see different things. If you eliminate perspective as deep diving meditation gurus do they experience this enlightenment that is experience without perspective, a direct vision of the ecstatic.

Channeling requires tuning, this means that two points in this chaotic whole are tuned like pitchforks so the involved entities can momentarily become like one...

Everything fits the holographic model. The classical world view does not allow for many things that do in fact exist in our world.