This Logos is an individualized portion of intelligent infinity

[Monica]

Yes, you don't get to see it unless you're a mystic. The comparison is clear, it is a holographic universe. And thus all the holographic truths apply.. And lo and behold, science is starting to back that up. In fact it has been backing that up for a while now if you count string theory...

It's apparent if you look at an apple that you do not see the universe. But if the apple contains the whole it must be all that is.... Apparent : clearly apparent or obvious to the mind or senses. But that doesn't make it true, you apparently have to step beyond your mind and senses to get to the bottom of a thing that contains the mind and senses.

Apple is a perspective on all that is!!! The object is the universe, the subject and object, all the distortions are required for us to see it as an apple. God does not see apples.

All this means... If you change your perspective on the apple you CAN see the universe.... People have done this. Shamanic travelling implies shifting your focus from the ordinary human domain into non ordinary domains. Which can literally catapult you into alternative worlds. They're doing it.. How could this be if they do not contain the universe? If the universe is somehow external to them?

And even Unity knows this notion of separation is nonsensical. He's clarified many times that the infinite is singular, there are no two infinites. And there is not one infinite and a whole lot of finites either. Every finite IS the infinite and only exists due to distortion.

As above so below. These are ancient esoteric truths. Ra wasn't being original.. He explained the same thing to the pharaos a long time ago.. And even then it wasn't the first time the human race touched the concept. These are core lessons for most esoteric traditions. Even Jesus with his mustard seed analogy tried to explain this. The kingdom of God is in all things.

So I strongly recommend against interpreting it as being merely a blueprint. Or something that Ra didn't quite mean the way he literally spoke it.

This is truth, I have seen it, and many who went and had mystical experiences will be the first to tell you that object/subject dissolves... All becomes one... If it doesn't it's not a mystical experience, it's a spiritual experience.

How can all that be if your body does not contain the universe?

This is the Law of One... ALL IS ONE... This isn't the law of many things that we just intellectually philosophically call one... All is genuinely ONE. I think we must guard against mundane, and in this case inappropriate mundane approximations. Just because our mind is hardwired to see objects doesn't mean they actually exist as separate things.

Awesome, Ali! I think we're finally getting someplace.

I agree with all that. Here's a question for you though: Can the shaman experience the perspective of the apple, and the perspective of the apple tree, as well as the perspective of you, and of me, and of the wolf in the forest, and the forest itself, and all other perspectives, all at the same time?

Holograms and fractals are absolutely not the same thing. A fractal is a thing that has infinite complexity but can be described completely in simple terms. The universe is not such a thing. A hologram is a thing that requires the same order of information as it contains detail..

OK, thanks for the clarification. You have told us that hologram not = fractal and you've told us what a fractal is. Can you now tell us what a hologram is?