11-19-2010, 06:33 PM
I asked because it seemed you're jumping to conclusions unity...
Ra states the sun is a sub logos of a sub logos..
Ra also states the solar system is a sub logos.
This means the sun could be the sub logos that governs the solar system
But it could also mean the sun logos is a sub logos to the solar system logos.
How do you know which one it is?
Ra spells out here that what you detect as a paradox is in fact real. It would also seem his compliments about being perceptive extend to you.
I understand it is immensely difficult for you to understand this. We've talked about this essential point a lot of times before. You never accepted it before, I don't expect you to do so now. But it is exactly what Ra is saying none the less. It is also not exclusive to the Law of One. This is a fairly common understanding among adepts of various traditions. And yes it seems like a paradox at first.
Also we need to create this pressure or momentum before we can differentiate a sub logos for a specific part of our own experience... Different facets of our own personality. And unique in their own way. Sometimes they leave our perception of control meaning we have rogue sub logoi inside. Which lets be honest happens to the best of us. We don't always feel in control of ourselves.
I need to process this. You changed my understanding.
Ra states the sun is a sub logos of a sub logos..
Ra also states the solar system is a sub logos.
This means the sun could be the sub logos that governs the solar system
But it could also mean the sun logos is a sub logos to the solar system logos.
How do you know which one it is?
Unity Wrote:your proposition goes to lump all the existing things in this solar system as sub logos (which is the sun here). this is wrong, because then we would just have to lump all the existing things in this galaxy as a sub logos themselves, and this would go all the way up to the initial central sun of all existence. then there would have no meaning to the concept 'sub logos'.The following quote should clarify that it is the case in spite of your objections which were literally noted by Ra.
Ra Wrote:28.9 Questioner: Then what you are saying is that the lenticular star system which we call a galaxy that we find ourselves in with approximately 250 billion other suns like our own was created by a single Logos. Is this correct?
Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.
28.10 Questioner: Since there are many individualized portions of consciousness in this lenticular galaxy, did this Logos then subdivide into more individualization of consciousness to create these consciousnesses?
Ra: I am Ra. You are perceptive. This is also correct although an apparent paradox.
28.11 Questioner: Could you tell me what you mean by an apparent paradox?
Ra: I am Ra. It would seem that if one Logos creates the intelligent energy ways for a large system there would not be the necessity or possibility of the further sub-Logos differentiation. However, within limits, this is precisely the case, and it is perceptive that this has been seen.
Ra spells out here that what you detect as a paradox is in fact real. It would also seem his compliments about being perceptive extend to you.
Unity Wrote:'containing a blueprint' does not mean that you can contain the infinite.Ra didn't say blueprint, he said "the one creator which is infinity". You are literally contradicting Ra here.
Ra Wrote:It shall be understood that any portion, no matter how small, of any density or illusory pattern contains, as in an holographic picture, the One Creator which is infinity
Unity Wrote:because, then there would be no way that you could be finite, and therefore experience freedom, love, or any kind of thing that only been able to come to being with the invention of finity.Yes there would still be a way. Ra is explaining that. A thing contains the infinite, but still manifests as finite. This is the essence of a hologram.
I understand it is immensely difficult for you to understand this. We've talked about this essential point a lot of times before. You never accepted it before, I don't expect you to do so now. But it is exactly what Ra is saying none the less. It is also not exclusive to the Law of One. This is a fairly common understanding among adepts of various traditions. And yes it seems like a paradox at first.
Unity Wrote:'a picture of' does not mean 'itself'.You left out the most important word.. Hologram.. A fragment of a hologram is itself. We're not talking ordinary pictures here. If you haven't already, spend some time researching holograms. It will be a great advantage in the study of the universe. Since well... It is a hologram.
Gemini Wolf Wrote:If we go with the holographic nature of the Universe, then even we could be considered a sub-LogosThat would agree with what I know to be. We also have our own sub-logoi that govern our inner worlds and time share our body. According to sufi psychology, we are not one.. We are like the oversoul or logos governing many creatures. This incidentally also completely agrees with modern neurology. There is no homunculus. But each part is formed after us. Each part IS us but a different perspective on us... Just like a hologram. Every part of the image created by a hologram is a function of perspective.
Gemini Wolf Wrote:Eventually the growth gets too much for an entity to handle, because the increase in mass can throw off one's own balance. The entity then individualizes itself, which creates a separation from the extra spiritual mass. This sub-entity does have connection to the Entity it separated from.This is an interesting notion. It would agree with what I understand of psychology. The spiritual mass could be compared to psychic pressure. When there is too much pressure on an individual he differentiates into multiple personalities.
Also we need to create this pressure or momentum before we can differentiate a sub logos for a specific part of our own experience... Different facets of our own personality. And unique in their own way. Sometimes they leave our perception of control meaning we have rogue sub logoi inside. Which lets be honest happens to the best of us. We don't always feel in control of ourselves.
Gemini Wolf Wrote:Individualization slows things down, since it becomes more difficult to balance as the Entity keeps growing. Entity individualizing to sub-Entity is one of the greatest gifts.And thus the creation of time and the apparent acceleration as our consciousness moves towards 4th.. I had not seen this in that exact way. But it makes much sense to me.
I need to process this. You changed my understanding.