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    Thread: "The [human] species will never learn to co-exist if given total freedom."


    Jim Kent + (Offline)

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    06-20-2017, 02:53 PM (This post was last modified: 06-20-2017, 04:27 PM by Jim Kent +.)
    (06-20-2017, 01:35 PM)Diana Wrote: You mentioned that you unfriend people on FB for posting animal cruelty. I am just curious as to how you can be a happy meat eater. This is not a judgment. I am genuinely curious, because this gets to the heart of my confusion as to how people can stay disconnected when the information is widely available. I can't understand how you can take pity on a spider but not a cow, fish, or chicken. 


    If you wouldn't mind, I'd like to hear your perspective on this subject.

     

    Hi Diana,
     
    I cannot and won't speak for anyone else, but as a meat eater, I'd like to chip in and answer your question.
     
    I've been a "pantheist" ( let's call it ) for 30 years, that is I believe that every life-form is inhabited by a piece of The Creator, animal and plant.
     
    Because of my life-long bias towards Spirituality, the Spiritual aspect of a combined life-form i.e. 2nd and 3rd density Mind / Body / Spirit complexes incarnate in physical life-forms, is far more important to me than the physical host of that Soul.
     
    Because of this, the wishes of that Soul, whether it be incarnate in an animal or plant is of equal import to me personally than any considerations of the objective or subjective suffering of farm animals.
     
    In my opinion though this in no way excuses or justifies any unnecessary mistreatment of farm-animals including the very existence of factory-farms.
     
    I would personally prefer to not have to take the life of any life-form, plant or animal, in order to exist, but I have to eat and to me, ceasing the incarnation of a Soul inhabiting a plant in order to feed is no less ethically significant that taking the life of an animal to feed.
     
    And in all honesty, I'm too selfish and lazy to give up eating vegetables and meat but I can maintain my positive polarity whilst still eating meat.
     
    I believe that a plant can suffer just as much an animal and has as much right to exist on this planet. An animal can feed many people for many meals, but it often takes many plants to create a single meal.
     
    I have often heard the argument from anti-meat-eaters ( not that I'm calling you one of those! ) that eating meat is immoral because it is unnecessary. I would respond to this by asking why you need to use toilet-paper? Billions of contemporary humans do without toilet paper, and so it is clearly unnecessary!
     
    For previously mentioned reasons the tree that was killed to wipe your arse has as much right to life on this planet as the pig in your bacon sandwich!    
     
    As one of my guides said to me last year whilst considering the ethics of dietary choices: "consumption of any life-form involves suffering"
     
    Jim

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    "The [human] species will never learn to co-exist if given total freedom." - by sjel - 06-13-2017, 03:16 AM
    RE: "The [human] species will never learn to co-exist if given total freedom." - by JustAThought - 06-13-2017, 07:54 AM
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    RE: "The [human] species will never learn to co-exist if given total freedom." - by sjel - 07-16-2017, 06:27 PM
    RE: "The [human] species will never learn to co-exist if given total freedom." - by Diana - 06-13-2017, 01:15 PM
    RE: "The [human] species will never learn to co-exist if given total freedom." - by sjel - 06-13-2017, 05:57 PM
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    RE: "The [human] species will never learn to co-exist if given total freedom." - by Diana - 06-20-2017, 01:35 PM
    RE: "The [human] species will never learn to co-exist if given total freedom." - by Jim Kent + - 06-20-2017, 02:53 PM
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