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[Lavazza]

Hey guys, I'm back- not dead, just busy.

Well since thoughts, like words are symbols, only on a deeper level. All non symbolic life forms have no thoughts.

I've read through this sentence about a dozen times but am still a bit confused, can you break it down for me?

1. Thoughts are symbols (so thoughts are a translation of something more fundamental- what?)
2. What are non-symbolic life forms? Are you meaning 2nd & 1st densities- and why are they non-symbolic? Which begs my next question, what is symbolic about symbolic life forms?

What manifests reality is what you might call the preconceptual self, or light body. It is made up of a series of primordial shapes or archetypes that are expressed into manifestation in your thoughts feelings and reality. This is a very primal version of self. It is recognized by most mystical traditions. And it is not to be mistaken by the auric body which is quite a different thing.

Would you please speak more about what the light body is, what an auric body is, and what differentiates them?

My feel is that this preconceptual self influences our thought process. So if it is your nature to think that you will be fine money wise and it is no constriction then reality will mirror that, because its congruent with the preconceptual self. If however you read it in a book and continuously forcefeed yourself those thoughts it's not going to make a difference. Because in spite of the conditioning the preconceptual self doesn't identify with it..

This may also be what Ra called 'pre-incarnational programming', or what Michael Newton calls your pre-selected life plan, or Carla's metaphore about packing a suitcase with the abilities and limitations you want to take with you in to a specific life, for your own learnings.

Any magick school will tell you that in order to do magick there is a phase of doing the work or making the push. And then there is the phase of passively allowing the universe to respond with the requested result. You don't will a thing into being. You create the vacuum in which it naturally manifests, you create a space for it to occupy.

So are you saying that if I want to make a ton of cash I should first empty all my bank accounts? Only a half serious comment- but what say you?

Changing the patterns in the lightbody is long term work. It may take months for a change to manifest. But it will from then on have massive effects on our lives. That is what is generally recognized to be our reality generating ability.

So where does this leave us with regards to the much revered 'law of attraction' idea? Or those people who highly endorse the film 'The Secret'?

So I'm wondering, since most traditions would put it there, if we should take the idea of the creative principle in our thoughts one step further to that preconceptual self that generates our stream of thoughts.

So changing your life is not as easy as just repeating thoughts and beliefs. You need to engage your core self, in esoteric terms: reprogram the light body. Before any real change occurs.

Is the pre-conceptual self model one that you yourself have concluded must exist, or are there other resources / references out there I could utilize for this? I must say I find it intriguing, because it seems to explain quite well what we observe in our world today, and in our fellow beings. Some people have a really hard time doing certain things, while other people find it effortless. Finding a loving mate for example. This is a big head scratcher for a lot of people... some times there are more mundane reasons why someone can't find the right match, other times it seems there is no reason at all, and people just say it's luck. Or the wealth concept that you spoke of earlier and how despite themselves some people are always broke. This also lines up well, as I mentioned earlier, with pre-incarnative programming. What I would call the higher self makes sure (or tries to make sure) you are following the life lessons that you said you wanted to learn. Having a stable income or meeting your soul mate might impede those goals. That also touches on what you called Karmic reasons.

It also explains why a lot of people who are in to the law of attraction or 'Secret' movies in new age circles seem to be unable to manifest what they intend to. Maybe some do, but I'm basically saying that people aren't quitting their day jobs to manifest their incomes full time. Sure it doesn't work that way but if you watch that movie they certainly seem to present it like it should, ha! Interesting stuff.

Thanks for sharing, all,
~L