(05-24-2017, 10:59 AM)anagogy Wrote:(05-20-2017, 12:01 AM)Aion Wrote:Quote:13.12 Questioner: Could you tell me how intelligent infinity became, shall we say (I’m having difficulty with some of the language), how intelligent infinity became individualized from itself?
Ra: I am Ra. This is an appropriate question.
The intelligent infinity discerned a concept. This concept was discerned due to freedom of will of awareness. This concept was finity. This was the first and primal paradox or distortion of the Law of One. Thus the one intelligent infinity invested itself in an exploration of many-ness. Due to the infinite possibilities of intelligent infinity there is no ending to many-ness. The exploration, thus, is free to continue infinitely in an eternal present.
It suggests here that Intelligent Infinity has the freedom of will of awareness 'before' it discerned the concept of finity which they say was the first distortion. This is where Ra gets sort of paradoxical because they both talk about II having freedom of will of awareness before discerning the concept of finity which is Free Will since they say that is the first distortion. So either 'freedom of will of awareness' is not considered a distortion by Ra or the 'Law of One' is referring to the whole of the Creator and not just the undistorted unity.
That is an excellent point.
My view of this is that the option, or distortion, was peripherally "visible" on the fringes of the awareness of infinity prior to "fully" exploring it. Sort of like a hill you can see in the distance. But you are not fully "in", or over, the distortion until you deliberately go over that hill and into the valley beyond. Thus, the first distortion was there on the fringes of nirvana, and at some point the intelligent infinity chose to go over that hill and see what was beyond it which was the first distortion: the action/choice of moving over the threshold by choosing to explore the illusion of limits (finity).
And then when it was over the hill it had to take stock of what finity "meant", and had to reference itself as an object, forming into the self aware Logos, the second distortion.
(05-23-2017, 08:37 AM)loostudent Wrote: In sanskrit there is a term "sat-chit-ananda" (pure existence-consciousness-bliss). I see this as absolute emanation.
I do as well. That's a good way of describing it.
I would propose that within Infinity there is a sort of self-defeating/creating paradox whereby it would have as its only 'limitation' the fact that it is infinite. Infinity with its 'freedom of will of awareness' discerned finity within itself due to the fact that upon becoming aware of itself it 'split' due to becoming aware of its limitation. The first act of experience, I think, is actually an act of limitation with every subsequent emanation being a fractalization of this fundamental 'split'. Ra says that this step of 'self-exploration' is still taking place and will continue indefinitely within an eternal present, yet they talk about the mysterious coalescing of the Creator at the 'end of the Octave'.
The 'beginning' of the octave and the 'end' of the octave appear to be the exact same state of unity and being outside of time there is no 'beginning' or 'end'.
So here we have the fundamental concept of an undistorted unity which perceives in itself limitation which produces the first distortion of that unity, which is free will. The first duality is a binary fluctuation that is pure energy, pure flux.
Quote:13.5 Questioner: Thank you. Can you tell me of the earliest, first known thing in the creation?
Ra: I am Ra. The first known thing in the creation is infinity. The infinity is creation.
13.6 Questioner: From this infinity then must have come what we experience as creation. What was the next step or the next evolvement?
Ra: I am Ra. Infinity became aware. This was the next step.
13.7 Questioner: After this, what happened?
Ra: Awareness led to the focus of infinity into infinite energy. You have called this by various vibrational sound complexes, the most common to your ears being “Logos” or “Love.” The Creator is the focusing of infinity as an aware or conscious principle called by us as closely as we can create understanding/learning in your language, intelligent infinity.
Now what Ra has never discussed or what was never asked is the connection between awareness and focus. They say Infinity "became aware", and naturally the only thing for it to become aware of is itself. Of course, we don't know why Infinity 'became aware' when it otherwise 'wasn't' (I think this is one of the areas where words break down) but in becoming aware of itself it focused upon every part of itself simultaneously, thus projecting itself through its focus.
Quote:13.8 Questioner: Can you state the next step?
Ra: The next step is still at this space/time nexus in your illusion achieving its progression as you may see it in your illusion. The next step is an infinite reaction to the creative principle following the Law of One in one of its primal distortions, freedom of will. Thus many, many dimensions, infinite in number, are possible. The energy moves from the intelligent infinity due first to the outpouring of randomized creative force, this then creating patterns which in holographic style appear as the entire creation no matter which direction or energy is explored. These patterns of energy begin then to regularize their own local, shall we say, rhythms and fields of energy, thus creating dimensions and universes.
Ra suggests here that it was actually 'randomized creative energy' which was first produced. Thus, intelligent energy is fundamentally disorganized when it first 'moves from' Intelligent Infinity. What we have to see is that each stage of Creation is a further organization of this randomized creative energy. What starts first as random movement starts to develop patterns and slowly formulate in to other structures. If it's any wonder why it has already taken billions of years to get to this point.
So I think it's important to characterized the exploration of the Creator as impassioned and vigorous. It isn't selectively choosing bits of itself to explore, it's going full-on through every single part of itself. It seems that the Creator in becoming aware of itself produced this chaotic energy which then began to form patterns. Now, my assumption is that it began to form patterns according to the 'information' inherent within Infinity itself and that is what we called the Focus. The Focus is actually the way the energy revolves around concepts within Intelligent Infinity. There are certain 'bigger' ideas that we called the first Three Distortions which were foundation to all of the other distortions and these being the foundation for space and time itself.
Thus we have Infinity becoming aware of itself and so producing intelligent energy which is still chaotic and randomized. As the Creator responds and reacts to its own energy which it produces the energy evolves in to more and more complex patterns. These patterns revolved around the elements contained within Infinity which become the endless focal points of Infinity's awareness.
So, infinity became aware of finity and in its awareness focused on every finite thing starting with the 'broadest' elements. You see, to become aware of finity you actually don't need a huge division in to manyness, you just need one split. I think the first awareness of finity was actually a very simple distortion, like the way cells divide. I think then every subsequent distortion is a further splitting of this fundamental duality.
Coming back around to the topic then we can relate consciousness to infinity 'becoming aware of itself'. In this way, I think the question of the OP actually kind of just makes no sense. I would say it is ultimately both and neither. Consciousness is often talked about as a 'thing in itself', but I see it as just the relationship betwixt Infinity and Finity. I would rather venture to say that Consciousness is the Absolute Emanating the Absolute. So it isn't really one or the other, but you can't really call it 'both' without a paradox.
Quote:13.9 Questioner: Then can you tell me how [the] galaxy and this planetary system were formed?
Ra: I am Ra. You must imagine a great leap of thought in this query, for at the last query the physical, as you call, it, universes were not yet born.
The energies moved in increasingly intelligent patterns until the individualization of various energies emanating from the creative principle of intelligent infinity became such as to be co-Creators. Thus the so-called physical matter began. The concept of light is instrumental in grasping this great leap of thought as this vibrational distortion of infinity is the building block of that which is known as matter, the light being intelligent and full of energy, thus being the first distortion of intelligent infinity which was called by the creative principle.
This light of love was made to have in its occurrences of being certain characteristics, among them the infinite whole paradoxically described by the straight line, as you would call it. This paradox is responsible for the shape of the various physical illusion entities you call solar systems, galaxies, and planets, all revolving and tending towards the lenticular.
Infinity has a 'direction' it would seem.