11-15-2010, 03:18 AM
(11-12-2010, 07:47 PM)kristy1111 Wrote: I have found that they feel they have the right to blazingly and blaringly tout their truths to me with no holds barred, so I just "tell it like it is" according to my truth in the simplest way I can (and I'm not known for being 'simple'...hehe).
Sometimes that's appropriate!
(11-12-2010, 07:47 PM)kristy1111 Wrote: Okay, so let's say I stub my toe and it hurts like @#$!. I may scream out "F*CK!!" It was a release of painful emotion for me. As an ex sweetheart of mine said recently, "I only use the "F bomb" occasionally, especially to help me find my keys". hehehe... ;o)
But what if I say to someone, "You are a stupid f*ck head!!". There was intent behind that word. It was calculated to cause pain.
I think words are just sound waves, but it's the intent, and the intent only that give them power. But it seems that religious people don't understand that. (I certainly didn't when I was religious - I was too scared of offending god).
Totally agree! When my hubby and I first got married, whenever he would curse or use the F word, I would turn beet red and get all uptight! It was most uncomfortable for me! My Catholic upbringing made me just cringe!
Well, over the years I sort of got immune to it. I realized he was only saying those words when he was fixing the sink, or couldn't find his hammer, or whatever. I gradually began to realize it was just a release for him.
My husband did honor my wishes and never cussed in front of our son. Ironically, it was I who first introduced our teenage son to profanity! (NOT something I'm proud of!) But then, later, with him getting into heavy metal music, the F word became nothing of any consequence. It is now used as a mere adjective to mean 'very.' To say "the concert was effin' awesome" is the equivalent to saying "the concert was really awesome" or "very awesome" or "stupendously awesome" - it's just an expression.
Sometimes that word just fits!
(11-12-2010, 07:47 PM)kristy1111 Wrote: But if he said those words in Germany, around religious folks especially, the air would have been markedly thicker.
HAHA!
(11-12-2010, 07:47 PM)kristy1111 Wrote: I believe that it is responsible with all of my heart and soul.
Yeah me too.
(11-12-2010, 07:47 PM)kristy1111 Wrote: I laughed SO hard after I read this! BELLY laugh!!
Ha! Yeah can you imagine how this might do a number on their heads?
(11-12-2010, 07:47 PM)kristy1111 Wrote: No lie, eh? I said that to Christian's before, too, and they said that it's "tough love" and then they said that God never changes, and he is the boss. Holy cow, if he never changes, that's even scarier. I often wonder what peoples' "pull" to "heaven" is if it involves being with a "father" like this. {{shaking head}} Many new-ager friends have told me that if they're going to hell, they're excited about it because they'll all be with their friends. ;o)
I sometimes tell my fundamentalist friends, that if 'God' is so cruel as to sentence 80% of the world's population to eternal torture (something I couldn't even do!) then why in the world would I want to spend eternity with him?
(11-12-2010, 07:47 PM)kristy1111 Wrote: the christians view the mormon diety as evil and created by the devil to deceive many people. So they are on a quest to 'save' the mormons.
And Buddhists, Hindus, Pagans, and everyone else.
(11-12-2010, 07:47 PM)kristy1111 Wrote: Well, it has to be understood that mormons claim that their church is THE only true church on the face of the earth
Well that's pretty typical Christian stuff. They all think that.
(11-12-2010, 07:47 PM)kristy1111 Wrote: The mormons also believe that Native Americans are THE descendants of a Book of Mormon prophet named Lehi who came to the Americas a long time ago. Joseph Smith swore that they were. Well, the science of DNA was non-existent back then, but now that it's available, it has been found after studying thousands and thousands of Indians that there is ZERO Israelite DNA in them. Not one teeny bit. And all of the places where huge battles supposedly took place (in the Book of Mormon) have ZERO evidence of such battles - and these battles supposedly had *millions* dying. No swords, no shields, no armour, no pottery, no bones, no...nothing. ouch. I guess the god of the Bible let the remants of past wars and peoples be evident, but mormons have to live on faith alone. Just stuff like that...nothing in the mormon church stood the test of intense study. Nothing.
Ouch. I wonder how the church is handling this? Are members leaving in droves? Or are they justifying the lack of evidence?
Still, in all fairness, I found my Mormon friends to be much less judgmental than my born-again friends.
But that's just a generality. I guess they all have their dogmas. But no Mormon has ever told me I was satanic for wearing crystal earrings, and I've been told that a number of times by those of other Christian religions.
Ah well. They have a lot of fear, don't they? The answer is always the same: love them and have compassion for them. But I do understand the need to vent. I was pretty traumatized by a born-again Christian who told me I was satanic, at a time when I was 9 months pregnant and very emotionally vulnerable. It took me awhile to get over that!