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    Bring4th Bring4th Studies Strictly Law of One Material Earth in 3D/7th Octave?

    Thread: Earth in 3D/7th Octave?


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    04-17-2009, 12:36 AM
    (04-11-2009, 01:38 PM)Quantum Wrote:
    (04-10-2009, 11:34 AM)zenmaster Wrote: Nonetheless, because the archetypes are both a resource for development (will) and dictate the process of evolution itself (faith), when considering the relationship between archetype and evolutionary stage, a pattern may be revealed which can suggest a developmental or operational role of one or more of them.
    1. Please do take a moment, if I may invite you, to elucidate more to your last paragraph above.
    Not sure how to begin with an elucidation.


    Quantum Wrote:2. If you would further elaborate on how one might describe the Magician at the Beige level given that the Magician may be seen as the culmination, the Rosetta Stone or Touch Stone if you will, and thus removed if not transcendent to "the level of basic survival; food, water, warmth, sex, and safety as priority. Uses habits and instincts just to survive. Distinct self is barely awakened or sustained. Forms into survival bands to perpetuate life."

    Perhaps I am seeing my descriptor of the Magician in a too regimented or structured form as intended by yours?
    If one was centered in Beige valuing, then any transcendence would be difficult to recognize as that person is drawing upon very basic ideas. Yet might the same actuator that manifests as foraging behavior at Beige, be seen as some type of analogous outreaching at more complex stages? First physical needs are addressed, then on to subtler needs.

    Remember, Spiral Dynamics vMemes are recognized, distinct groups of core values. The evolution of core values follows from one or more other evolutionary lines, such as what Piaget identified with his cognitive schemas. Whereas the archetypes are a template for any form of evolution (such as complexity in cognition), not just what we can identify as collections of core values.

    For example, "Experience" of mind IS (superficially) that which is experiential. It is that which we associate, on one level, with the mind and memory. On another level, it is that which comes from the development of mind and memory - perhaps epitomized by an authority figure - hence the Emperor. Obviously, experience, memory and authority are NOT the archetype (and nothing we can identify and point out can be an archetype), but are merely conveniently identifiable characteristics that point in the general direction of an influence.

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    Earth in 3D/7th Octave? - by Quantum - 03-19-2009, 01:26 PM
    RE: Earth in 3D/7th Octave? - by alchemikey - 03-19-2009, 03:25 PM
    RE: Earth in 3D/7th Octave? - by Ali Quadir - 03-19-2009, 03:54 PM
    RE: Earth in 3D/7th Octave? - by Quantum - 03-19-2009, 06:50 PM
    RE: Earth in 3D/7th Octave? - by zenmaster - 04-05-2009, 12:04 PM
    RE: Earth in 3D/7th Octave? - by Quantum - 04-05-2009, 11:51 PM
    RE: Earth in 3D/7th Octave? - by zenmaster - 04-06-2009, 01:24 AM
    RE: Earth in 3D/7th Octave? - by Quantum - 04-09-2009, 02:56 PM
    RE: Earth in 3D/7th Octave? - by zenmaster - 04-10-2009, 12:15 AM
    RE: Earth in 3D/7th Octave? - by 3D Sunset - 04-10-2009, 10:06 AM
    RE: Earth in 3D/7th Octave? - by zenmaster - 04-10-2009, 11:34 AM
    RE: Earth in 3D/7th Octave? - by Quantum - 04-11-2009, 01:38 PM
    RE: Earth in 3D/7th Octave? - by Richard - 04-10-2009, 11:13 AM
    RE: Earth in 3D/7th Octave? - by zenmaster - 04-17-2009, 12:36 AM
    RE: Earth in 3D/7th Octave? - by Quantum - 04-17-2009, 12:10 PM
    RE: Earth in 3D/7th Octave? - by zenmaster - 04-17-2009, 07:45 PM
    RE: Earth in 3D/7th Octave? - by Quantum - 04-17-2009, 08:29 PM
    RE: Earth in 3D/7th Octave? - by Quantum - 04-17-2009, 11:49 PM
    RE: Earth in 3D/7th Octave? - by zenmaster - 04-18-2009, 12:40 AM
    RE: Earth in 3D/7th Octave? - by irpsit - 05-13-2009, 03:44 AM
    RE: Earth in 3D/7th Octave? - by paddy - 09-27-2009, 11:02 PM
    RE: Earth in 3D/7th Octave? - by irpsit - 09-28-2009, 05:05 AM
    RE: Earth in 3D/7th Octave? - by paddy - 09-29-2009, 02:35 AM

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