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    05-04-2017, 06:06 AM
    (05-04-2017, 01:58 AM)gestir Wrote: This is refering to the beings who died of from our world (not considered a loss to the Creator), but whos spirits still was decided should be saved (because spirits who are not saved would in deed be considered a loss to the Creator). And I might add that we don't even know if they are fully recovered as of today! I wonder then what would happen to the spirits that where not allowed to be saved. Now you say that of course all spirits would be saved, but om not so sure. I mean, if they are serious about the existence of a non-re-integrateble-spirit, then one must ask how they can be so sure about this if they have never tried to re-integrate one. And how can they try to re-integrate a spirit if one was never destroyed?

    I'm not saying they weren't ever destroyed. I'm just saying in most cases, they wouldn't be because your inner being is extremely smart and would see it coming a million miles away. But in cases where they were destroyed, and reintegrated, the spirit would most likely need some serious 'therapy' so to speak. It would be traumatic regardless of reintegration.

    (05-04-2017, 01:58 AM)gestir Wrote: Also, I would like to ask, if they have tried to re-integrate a spirit but failed, what kind of state would that spirit be in now? It sure looks like it would be left forever in a state of desperate need for healing, where no healing is possible. This might make one conclude that there is nothing left to do but to destroy the spirit to save it from an endless state of non-nirvana, that is a state of endless suffering, by destroying it (however possible the destruction of a spirit now may be. I mean, if even the spirit is destroyable, then what is there left in a creature that cannot be destroyed?).

    I can only share my intuition, which tells me the fundamental essence of Beingness cannot be destroyed by any means. The dream cannot kill the dreamer. It can only disarrange the character they have imagined themselves to be in the dream. That Beingness (the real dreamer) is eternal and immortal. I don't have quotes to support this, it is just a deep inner feeling I carry within my consciousness.

    (05-04-2017, 01:58 AM)gestir Wrote: Consider this also: "..but to ensure the survival of the, shall we say, disembodied mind/body/spirit complex.". Here the being has "died" so to speak, because it has no longer a body, thus the use of the word "disembodied" which implies that if they would not inreact to save the spririt, the spirit would not have survived. Now, what does it mean that a spirit doesn't survive? Are you sure that it is exactly the same thing as realizing Nirvana? Because if that is the case, then why not just nuke the whole planet so that all beings here can enter in to a state of endless eternal bliss? Who cares about a "spiritual journey" in Nirvana anyway? In Nirvana there is no time, no memory, no mind, no anything at all, so why would one care the slightest about some "journey"? Who would care about a "journey" when there is not even someone there to care at all? If destructions of souls are possible, there should at least be "soul destroyers" available for those beings who wish to end their suffering once and for all. And if someone is about to realize nirvana (which again is nothing but a state of pure limitles happiness) by a nuke, then who are these beings to hinder them from experiencing that?

    Because this whole creation is about the journey not the destination, so if you shortcut the journey, you've defeated the entire purpose of creation. Creation is like an adventure, or a vacation in a way from our own eternal nature. Its like if you went on a trip around the world. Eventually you come back home to the same place you started. You're essentially saying, well why go in the first place if your just going back home (to Nirvana)?

    But you see, that isn't the point, the journey is the point -- the new experience. The creator isn't going to throw away the vacation plans just because a flight was delayed. That would be a loss to the creator. The creator manifested us to go on that free will journey. These beings did not choose to end their journeys, and as such were reintegrated, to fulfill the purpose they were created for. The individual that was destroyed doesn't care whether they come back or not. The creator does (which is the deeper all knowing self).

    As for somebody deliberately destroying themselves by nuke to reach nirvana, I would tend to think that would be extremely frowned upon and seen as avoidance by spiritual guides and teachers (it wouldn't be allowed). It might not even be successful and result in a fractured state where a soul was stuck in limbo for eons. Also it wouldn't even work on some beings (6D wanderers). Their denser spirits wouldn't be disintegrated by the nuclear explosion, only lower density beings with less developed spiritual complexes.
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    Can a spirit become "completely disarranged without possibility of re -integration"? - by gestir - 05-03-2017, 08:05 PM
    RE: Can a spirit become "completely disarranged without possibility of re -integration"? - by Stranger - 05-03-2017, 08:37 PM
    Can a spirit become "completely disarranged without possibility of re -integration"? - by Minyatur - 05-03-2017, 08:55 PM
    Can a spirit become "completely disarranged without possibility of re -integration"? - by gestir - 05-03-2017, 09:14 PM
    RE: Can a spirit become "completely disarranged without possibility of re -integr... - by Minyatur - 05-03-2017, 09:52 PM
    RE: Can a spirit become "completely disarranged without possibility of re -integr... - by gestir - 05-03-2017, 10:26 PM
    RE: Can a spirit become "completely disarranged without possibility of re -integr... - by anagogy - 05-03-2017, 10:43 PM
    RE: Can a spirit become "completely disarranged without possibility of re -integr... - by Minyatur - 05-03-2017, 11:16 PM
    RE: Can a spirit become "completely disarranged without possibility of re -integr... - by anagogy - 05-03-2017, 11:20 PM
    RE: Can a spirit become "completely disarranged without possibility of re -integr... - by Minyatur - 05-04-2017, 08:38 AM
    RE: Can a spirit become "completely disarranged without possibility of re -integr... - by gestir - 05-04-2017, 01:58 AM
    RE: Can a spirit become "completely disarranged without possibility of re -integr... - by AnthroHeart - 05-04-2017, 05:53 AM
    RE: Can a spirit become "completely disarranged without possibility of re -integr... - by anagogy - 05-04-2017, 06:06 AM
    RE: Can a spirit become "completely disarranged without possibility of re -integr... - by Minyatur - 05-03-2017, 11:07 PM
    RE: Can a spirit become "completely disarranged without possibility of re -integr... - by Patrick - 05-04-2017, 06:43 PM
    RE: Can a spirit become "completely disarranged without possibility of re -integr... - by gestir - 05-06-2017, 01:52 AM
    RE: Can a spirit become "completely disarranged without possibility of reintegration? - by loostudent - 05-04-2017, 04:20 PM

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