04-20-2017, 11:52 AM
(04-20-2017, 07:30 AM)APeacefulWarrior Wrote: Well, my own take is that "I" never truly goes away, but rather expands to encompass each new level of awareness\growth while increasingly acknowledging its component parts. After all, do you think The Creator truly lacks any sense of "I"? I kinda doubt it.
But -as Peregrin's quotes and most of Buddhism allude to- one's definition of "I" will be constantly changing. It is absolutely necessary to understand that "I" am not my personality or my opinions or my clothes or anything like that. (I actually like to say that opinions are the clothes of the soul.) But that doesn't mean "I" is eliminated. Just that "I" is different from what most people suppose, and far far more subtle.
Undoubtedly, along the way, the concept of individuality itself falls away. We see that in various 5D and 6D S-M-Cs who already refer to themselves as "we" rather than "I". None the less, Ra still obviously sees himself in terms of being a somewhat separate entity as well. He is simultaneously himself-as-singular, while also being composed of all the other various intelligences contributing to his makeup. I-and-We at once, basically.
And it just makes sense to me that, during the progression through 7D to 8D Oneness, that would effectively progress to a simultaneous sense of I-and-We-and-All. And as each individual entity makes that journey back to Oneness, in merging with the Creator's vibrations, they literally become the Creator and their sense of "I" transcends yet again, shedding attachment to previous names and forms like a snake shedding its skin.
Now of course, there's also the matter of the Creator's infinite self-awareness of that point and the paradoxical (from our POV) simultaneous co-existence of all subforms as distinct-but-not, but there's a limit to what I can wrap my head around.
All great points. I think what I'm mainly referring to is the absolute essence of all things. I see one of the qualities of an essence is everything being so completely nullified to it that it is unaware of itself.
The main perception/misperception I have is that objectivity and even subjectivity has an origin. Like you mentioned, this may just become more and more transcendent and subtle.
I do think there is a point where things become so infinitely subtle that you no longer think in terms of "I". Where you no longer think period.
In Buddhism they refer to the four/five formless states called arupajhanas that are increasingly subtle. I see these states as a re-merging with unity. The "progression" goes as follows.
It goes...
Infinite space
Infinite consciousness
Infinite nothingness
Neither perception nor non-perception
The cessation of neither perception nor non-perception.
The last two jhanas would be a sort of loss of subjectivity to what "Is". However, as you mentioned, these states may still have an infinitely subtle or transcendent "I".