04-19-2017, 08:47 PM
(04-19-2017, 04:56 PM)Henosis Wrote: When does subjectivity end/begin?
At what stage of evolution will I cease to think or feel in terms of "I"? Perhaps the second half of seventh density, when the looking backwards stops? Or maybe upon the completion of the Logos? When does the "I" dissolve into unity? Between Logos, does "I"/subjectivity first dissolve into unity, before beginning a new creation?
The octave density seems to be so far beyond any possible manifestation, yet Ra mentions the council of Saturn is of the octave density and dwells in its rings...this perplexes me...
I realize there is no correct answer, but I would love to hear some thoughts.
Its a good question, I conceptualize it a little differently. I see everything as withdrawing back into pure subjectivity rather than subjectivity going away. Maybe its a confusion of terms. I suppose the distinction between subjective and objective become irrelevant at this level in the same way that the distinction between space/time and time/space become irrelevant.
My understanding, which is admittedly human and imperfect, is that in the octave density all notion of ego or self is transcended. Even the 7th density Logos has an infinitely subtle proto self, whose body and mind constitute the entirety of our space/time and time/space. Self is like a bubble, creating a distinction between inner and outer. When that is transcended, consciousness moves into a state of pure Being, which is essentially nirvana -- our natural state of blissful awareness of awareness (I am-ness or perhaps just "am-ness"), yet with no center of self (center is everywhere, circumference is nowhere). It is essentially the relaxed state of unpotentiated intelligent infinity, awaiting potentiation through the use of free will. Of course, it is impossible for us to truly imagine infinity while en-mired in the illusion of finity.
However, I have heard its pretty sweet. =)
The statement about the council of Saturn confused me as well. My intuition is that what Ra was intending to communicate is that the council members are so spiritually pure that they are in contact with intelligent infinity to a very pronounced degree (which is what warranted the placement in such an important office in the first place). It is also possible that these beings are the "lightbringers" from the octave 'to be' that come to aid our octave in its logos completion.