04-14-2017, 10:06 PM
(04-14-2017, 08:12 PM)ScottK Wrote: Indeed, freedom is a rather interesting subject. As Quo said in a channeling ( http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/is..._0304.aspx ), the only entity which is truly free is the savage - for example, a wild animal. They can pretty much do as they wish. Humans like to create attachments for themselves (significant others, children, pets, jobs, hobbies, etc), which inherently limits freedom. Perhaps this is what you are referring to as "natural laws"
At the societal level, I would certainly argue against the notion that authority over you is a "natural law". Rather, it strikes me that this is an artificial and unnecessary construct set up by the Orion Group to enslave. I choose not to be governed/controlled by the Orion Group.
By natural law I mean laws like gravity and the need to eat. But the perception that someone has authority over you is something that is perfectly within your power to control. Do you believe that anyone has authority over you and your free will?
(04-14-2017, 08:12 PM)ScottK Wrote: I think it's more that they chose to experience enslavement while believing that they were free. Certainly their Higher Self understands just how enslaved they are during this incarnation, but their job while incarnated is more related to "making the best of it" and helping others to learn their lessons.
I would argue that in fact they are free. Not just believing they are free, I think they literally are experiencing perfect freedom, because they believe they are. They do not care about attaining higher freedom (the hypothetical 'asleep' person we are talking about).
(04-14-2017, 08:12 PM)ScottK Wrote:(04-14-2017, 03:33 PM)sjel Wrote: I choose to believe that no one is enslaved, because free will is revocable never.
I can agree with that at a certain level. You had free will to choose that you would be enslaved - the enslavement is in the physical world, not the spiritual realms.
But some were put here to recognize the level of enslavement here right now in the physical in order to change it and to move towards creating a 4th density society. It's not an accident when one sees it, and doesn't live in denial of it. It's probably because they are here to help drive the process forward.
You seem set on the belief that there are people who are enslaved. I just do not think anyone is a slave, ever. Free will is the most basic foundation of this universe. There is really no other thing that is emphasized more when dealing with extreme positive entities. Reading the Ra channelings, and even Q'uo, there is the distinct sense that infringement upon free will itself is a natural law!
Actually I just realized that free will is a natural law that goes deeper than gravity in this universe. Free will is a natural law that extends well beyond the physical boundaries of third density.
You say that you were put here to "recognize the level of enslavement" here on Earth - have you considered that maybe this, too, is a belief system to be transcended? If this belief system causes you discomfort, or fear of any sort, it means that it does not resonate with your True Self!
One of my favorite quotes by the great John Lilly:
Quote:In the province of the mind, what one believes to be true is true or becomes true, within certain limits to be found experientially and experimentally. These limits are further beliefs to be transcended. In the mind, there are no limits... In the province of connected minds, what the network believes to be true, either is true or becomes true within certain limits to be found experientially and experimentally. These limits are further beliefs to be transcended. In the network's mind there are no limits.