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    Thread: Inert / Private / Neutral / thoughts or actions, do they exist?


    Ali Quadir (Offline)

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    11-05-2010, 01:56 PM
    Yes, you're right but be careful, there is a catch, the notion of reincarnation is a concept. It is not the underlying reality or experience itself. You and your daughter took the preconceptual experience, converted it into concepts and then communicated it. But the concept of reincarnation has aquired a lot of information that was not there in the preconceptual awareness. So the thought is not what is, but what you describe it to be.

    And fortunately our thoughts usually mirror the preconceptual pretty good, but that mirroring is subconscious and not totally accurate all the time. When you see a cow, you just call it a cow. You don't think about whether to call it a cow, you just do it. And this is where illusions come in. You see a cow, then wake up more and as more information flows in you realize it's your daughter in a cow suit because it's halloween.

    Have you ever been so tired hungry or cold that your thoughts became sluggish or even partly stopped functioning? Do you remember that in spite of your thoughts being sluggish your experience was still as crystal clear as ever? That experience doesn't dim, you can be half asleep and still have clear awareness, your thoughts may be partly functioning, and you get dreamlike intrusions into that half awake-ness. It's not the IAM presence, the IAM presence is having those preconceptual experiences, the preconceptual is already severely distorted, preconceptual awareness still centers around you.

    I'm pretty sure the buddhists have a name for this thing. I wish I had payed better attention Smile

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    Inert / Private / Neutral / thoughts or actions, do they exist? - by Lavazza - 11-02-2010, 12:06 PM
    RE: Inert / Private / Neutral / thoughts or actions, do they exist? - by peelstreetguy - 11-02-2010, 12:30 PM
    RE: Inert / Private / Neutral / thoughts or actions, do they exist? - by Shemaya - 11-02-2010, 01:22 PM
    RE: Inert / Private / Neutral / thoughts or actions, do they exist? - by Shemaya - 11-02-2010, 02:24 PM
    RE: Inert / Private / Neutral / thoughts or actions, do they exist? - by Richard - 11-02-2010, 04:00 PM
    RE: Inert / Private / Neutral / thoughts or actions, do they exist? - by Shemaya - 11-02-2010, 05:15 PM
    RE: Inert / Private / Neutral / thoughts or actions, do they exist? - by Richard - 11-02-2010, 05:22 PM
    RE: Inert / Private / Neutral / thoughts or actions, do they exist? - by @ndy - 11-03-2010, 11:08 AM
    RE: Inert / Private / Neutral / thoughts or actions, do they exist? - by unity100 - 11-02-2010, 05:22 PM
    RE: Inert / Private / Neutral / thoughts or actions, do they exist? - by Lavazza - 11-03-2010, 12:30 PM
    RE: Inert / Private / Neutral / thoughts or actions, do they exist? - by unity100 - 11-03-2010, 02:23 PM
    RE: Inert / Private / Neutral / thoughts or actions, do they exist? - by LsavedSmeD - 11-03-2010, 03:01 PM
    RE: Inert / Private / Neutral / thoughts or actions, do they exist? - by unity100 - 11-03-2010, 03:08 PM
    RE: Inert / Private / Neutral / thoughts or actions, do they exist? - by LsavedSmeD - 11-03-2010, 04:07 PM
    RE: Inert / Private / Neutral / thoughts or actions, do they exist? - by Aaron - 11-03-2010, 09:10 PM
    RE: Inert / Private / Neutral / thoughts or actions, do they exist? - by unity100 - 11-04-2010, 10:18 AM
    RE: Inert / Private / Neutral / thoughts or actions, do they exist? - by Aaron - 11-04-2010, 12:56 PM
    RE: Inert / Private / Neutral / thoughts or actions, do they exist? - by Shemaya - 11-03-2010, 11:46 PM
    RE: Inert / Private / Neutral / thoughts or actions, do they exist? - by Lavazza - 11-04-2010, 12:16 PM
    RE: Inert / Private / Neutral / thoughts or actions, do they exist? - by unity100 - 11-04-2010, 12:22 PM
    RE: Inert / Private / Neutral / thoughts or actions, do they exist? - by Ali Quadir - 11-04-2010, 01:11 PM
    RE: Inert / Private / Neutral / thoughts or actions, do they exist? - by Aaron - 11-04-2010, 01:31 PM
    RE: Inert / Private / Neutral / thoughts or actions, do they exist? - by Ali Quadir - 11-04-2010, 05:44 PM
    RE: Inert / Private / Neutral / thoughts or actions, do they exist? - by Lavazza - 11-15-2010, 12:43 PM
    RE: Inert / Private / Neutral / thoughts or actions, do they exist? - by Ali Quadir - 11-15-2010, 04:44 PM
    RE: Inert / Private / Neutral / thoughts or actions, do they exist? - by Lavazza - 11-16-2010, 12:59 PM
    RE: Inert / Private / Neutral / thoughts or actions, do they exist? - by unity100 - 11-04-2010, 02:13 PM
    RE: Inert / Private / Neutral / thoughts or actions, do they exist? - by LsavedSmeD - 11-04-2010, 07:32 PM
    RE: Inert / Private / Neutral / thoughts or actions, do they exist? - by @ndy - 11-04-2010, 07:26 PM
    RE: Inert / Private / Neutral / thoughts or actions, do they exist? - by Ali Quadir - 11-05-2010, 10:04 AM
    RE: Inert / Private / Neutral / thoughts or actions, do they exist? - by Brittany - 11-05-2010, 05:38 AM
    RE: Inert / Private / Neutral / thoughts or actions, do they exist? - by @ndy - 11-05-2010, 01:21 PM
    RE: Inert / Private / Neutral / thoughts or actions, do they exist? - by Ali Quadir - 11-05-2010, 01:56 PM
    RE: Inert / Private / Neutral / thoughts or actions, do they exist? - by Etude in B Minor - 11-05-2010, 08:32 PM
    RE: Inert / Private / Neutral / thoughts or actions, do they exist? - by @ndy - 11-05-2010, 02:26 PM
    RE: Inert / Private / Neutral / thoughts or actions, do they exist? - by Aaron - 11-05-2010, 03:19 PM
    RE: Inert / Private / Neutral / thoughts or actions, do they exist? - by Ali Quadir - 11-05-2010, 06:29 PM
    RE: Inert / Private / Neutral / thoughts or actions, do they exist? - by Ali Quadir - 11-05-2010, 09:05 PM
    RE: Inert / Private / Neutral / thoughts or actions, do they exist? - by Etude in B Minor - 11-05-2010, 11:43 PM
    RE: Inert / Private / Neutral / thoughts or actions, do they exist? - by Aaron - 11-06-2010, 12:35 PM
    RE: Inert / Private / Neutral / thoughts or actions, do they exist? - by Ali Quadir - 11-06-2010, 01:38 PM
    RE: Inert / Private / Neutral / thoughts or actions, do they exist? - by Ali Quadir - 11-16-2010, 03:31 PM
    RE: Inert / Private / Neutral / thoughts or actions, do they exist? - by Experience You - 11-16-2010, 04:45 PM

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