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    Thread: I am in hell


    Mahakali (Offline)

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    03-22-2017, 04:25 PM (This post was last modified: 03-22-2017, 04:26 PM by Mahakali.)
    (03-22-2017, 02:52 PM)Aion Wrote: Well that's perfectly fair. I'm not sure how you are under the impression that I think you have no heart chakra or in any way desire to 'take it away' but I accept that you maybe interpret me in this way. The truth is closer that I just see a lot of myself in you and in general I try to just 'let you be'. That I have experienced different parts of the One Truth I may sometimes venture to share but I assure you I'm under no illusion that you desire my assistance. What I posted was for him, not for you, but I understand where you're coming from. I appreciate your honesty, truly.

    I actually think quite the opposite. I think the hellish nature of your reality has occurred precisely because you DO have a heart, and yet cleave to negative spaces which actually do not typically support that. I think you are doing a unique work and I am merely observing. However you proceed is your own choice but also knowing that I see no harm in responding to your thoughts with alternative methods for the sake of others who maybe don't share your same disposition as what you are sharing can absolutely be dangerous.

    >"Okay, I will try to help you with more of my ramblings, because I feel that despite your actions there is light in your heart. Maybe it will not be useful to you but then I can only give you what I have available."

    I took this as a statement that you wished to snuff out the light in my heart just because I did some evil thing in some timeline or another when I was on a bunch of drugs and hanging around crazy people.

    It seems to be a common sentiment among Kabbalists and Christian occultists to attack people's heart chakras when they don't like that person, the heart chakra being the center of the body's electromagnetic field and all. I've had some follow me around and try to actively ruin my heart just because they got some stupid idea or another about me in their little Judeo-Christian heads. Whoever is running this society and making these decisions would be wise to leave me out of them, because I don't fall neatly into their categories, and leaving me alone will result in me leaving them alone, while engaging me will only make me pounce on them like the rabid little puppy I am and go for the jugular with every ounce of strength I've got, even if and after by some miracle they succeed in destroying this body.

    I guess Kabbalists often think in terms of frequency, shape, geometry, mathematics, music, pattern, and structure, while I prefer to see things in a more Chaotic fashion, with those other things mistrusted and regarded as secondary at best. I don't vibe well with the morphic fields that most Kabbalists entrench themselves in. I'm all Shiva and little-to-no Vishnu. Seems like most of them see my way of thinking as crazy or dangerous rather than authentic or Chaotic in a primal sense, and I see them as stuffy and overly-scholarly and focused on a very narrow avenue of thought.

    It's more or less a root assumption of my psyche that anyone who hasn't proven otherwise is actively warring against me. I apologize if that isn't the case with you.

    Puppies have hearts, too, and those hearts overflow with emotion when they see someone they love... and then they turn around and kill a rabbit in cold blood, with that heart still wide open. There's lot of a kindness in them, and more than a little bit of meanness, and a lot of naivete and lack of self-awareness in regards to their position in the world...

    But people with hearts eat meat and kill unwanted insects. I've seen people with wonderful hearts hang cows up by their feet, slit their throat, and then drain the blood into a bucket.

    I don't think there's anything "wrong" with those behaviors, or that those who perform them must be heartless, but I think that such behaviors aren't required anymore when you've made it to a certain level, and they'll naturally fall away when they're no longer required. I can understand the wisdom in not killing rabbits, but I also don't see the reason to moralize about it or beat yourself up or be offended more than is necessary.

    I'm confused, and curious, though... What, in particular, do you think is dangerous about what I said?

    To clarify, my advice is given from the standpoint of, that, even if everything is against you, and your only hope is the Creator Itself, you still have a fighting chance, no matter how terrible the situation otherwise. Even if a black mamba just bit the bloody stumps of your sawed off legs while you're starving to death in the middle of a forest fire in a marsh populated by hungry alligators during a zombie apocalypse and a nuke is being dropped on you from an airplane above, something can still be done on a higher level, and you can do it. It's last-resort advice, when nothing external gives you a chance, because that's where I feel like I am. I don't fear death, because I'm already living a fate worse than death, and I'm not afraid of pain, because even horrible pain is in the same order of magnitude. I have nothing to lose and am desperate.

    Am I likely to find my way out of that situation? No. Possible? Yes. Have such things been accomplished before? Yes.

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    I am in hell - by sjel - 03-22-2017, 12:40 AM
    RE: I am in hell - by sjel - 03-22-2017, 12:43 AM
    RE: I am in hell - by Night Owl - 03-22-2017, 12:47 AM
    RE: I am in hell - by Aion - 03-22-2017, 12:47 AM
    RE: I am in hell - by sjel - 03-22-2017, 12:51 AM
    RE: I am in hell - by Aion - 03-22-2017, 12:55 AM
    RE: I am in hell - by sjel - 03-22-2017, 12:59 AM
    RE: I am in hell - by sjel - 03-22-2017, 12:48 AM
    RE: I am in hell - by Night Owl - 03-22-2017, 01:02 AM
    RE: I am in hell - by Aion - 03-22-2017, 01:05 AM
    RE: I am in hell - by smc - 03-22-2017, 01:20 AM
    RE: I am in hell - by Aion - 03-22-2017, 02:13 AM
    RE: I am in hell - by Billy - 03-22-2017, 05:35 AM
    RE: I am in hell - by Agua del Cielo - 03-22-2017, 03:27 AM
    RE: I am in hell - by Cainite - 03-22-2017, 03:54 AM
    RE: I am in hell - by Ankh - 03-22-2017, 04:51 AM
    RE: I am in hell - by Jeremy - 03-22-2017, 07:06 AM
    RE: I am in hell - by Mahakali - 03-22-2017, 11:40 AM
    RE: I am in hell - by Aion - 03-22-2017, 01:48 PM
    RE: I am in hell - by Mahakali - 03-22-2017, 02:42 PM
    RE: I am in hell - by Aion - 03-22-2017, 02:52 PM
    RE: I am in hell - by Mahakali - 03-22-2017, 04:25 PM
    RE: I am in hell - by Aion - 03-22-2017, 04:35 PM
    RE: I am in hell - by Billy - 03-24-2017, 02:29 AM
    RE: I am in hell - by Diana - 03-22-2017, 12:56 PM
    RE: I am in hell - by Spooner - 03-22-2017, 01:35 PM
    RE: I am in hell - by Coordinate_Apotheosis - 03-22-2017, 06:44 PM
    RE: I am in hell - by sjel - 03-22-2017, 07:00 PM
    RE: I am in hell - by AnthroHeart - 03-22-2017, 06:45 PM
    RE: I am in hell - by Karl - 03-22-2017, 07:09 PM
    RE: I am in hell - by Coordinate_Apotheosis - 03-22-2017, 07:19 PM
    RE: I am in hell - by Coordinate_Apotheosis - 03-22-2017, 07:41 PM
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    RE: I am in hell - by sjel - 03-22-2017, 09:23 PM
    - - by earth_spirit - 03-22-2017, 09:58 PM
    RE: I am in hell - by Aion - 03-22-2017, 09:28 PM
    RE: I am in hell - by sjel - 03-22-2017, 09:32 PM
    RE: I am in hell - by Aion - 03-22-2017, 09:36 PM
    RE: I am in hell - by sjel - 03-22-2017, 09:42 PM
    RE: I am in hell - by Aion - 03-22-2017, 09:47 PM
    RE: I am in hell - by sjel - 03-22-2017, 09:53 PM
    RE: I am in hell - by Aion - 03-22-2017, 09:54 PM
    RE: I am in hell - by Minyatur - 03-22-2017, 09:52 PM
    RE: I am in hell - by Aion - 03-22-2017, 10:00 PM
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    RE: I am in hell - by Minyatur - 03-22-2017, 10:22 PM
    RE: I am in hell - by sjel - 03-22-2017, 10:19 PM
    RE: I am in hell - by Aion - 03-22-2017, 10:20 PM
    RE: I am in hell - by isis - 03-22-2017, 10:20 PM
    RE: I am in hell - by Aion - 03-22-2017, 10:23 PM
    RE: I am in hell - by Aion - 03-22-2017, 10:29 PM
    RE: I am in hell - by smc - 03-22-2017, 10:41 PM
    RE: I am in hell - by Coordinate_Apotheosis - 03-22-2017, 10:45 PM
    - - by earth_spirit - 03-22-2017, 10:53 PM
    RE: I am in hell - by sjel - 03-22-2017, 10:46 PM
    RE: I am in hell - by sjel - 03-22-2017, 10:50 PM
    RE: I am in hell - by Aion - 03-22-2017, 10:55 PM
    RE: I am in hell - by sjel - 03-22-2017, 11:58 PM
    RE: I am in hell - by Aion - 03-23-2017, 12:17 AM
    RE: I am in hell - by Night Owl - 03-23-2017, 01:13 AM
    RE: I am in hell - by Aion - 03-23-2017, 01:24 AM
    RE: I am in hell - by Aion - 03-23-2017, 01:29 AM
    RE: I am in hell - by Coordinate_Apotheosis - 03-23-2017, 01:30 AM
    RE: I am in hell - by Night Owl - 03-23-2017, 01:37 AM
    RE: I am in hell - by Aion - 03-23-2017, 01:39 AM
    RE: I am in hell - by Night Owl - 03-23-2017, 01:41 AM
    RE: I am in hell - by Aion - 03-23-2017, 01:43 AM
    RE: I am in hell - by smc - 03-23-2017, 04:38 AM
    RE: I am in hell - by Night Owl - 03-23-2017, 04:55 AM
    RE: I am in hell - by sjel - 03-23-2017, 02:03 PM
    RE: I am in hell - by Minyatur - 03-23-2017, 02:35 PM
    RE: I am in hell - by sjel - 03-23-2017, 03:41 PM
    RE: I am in hell - by smc - 03-23-2017, 06:17 AM
    RE: I am in hell - by Coordinate_Apotheosis - 03-23-2017, 06:32 AM
    RE: I am in hell - by Jeremy - 03-23-2017, 02:25 PM
    RE: I am in hell - by sjel - 03-23-2017, 02:31 PM
    RE: I am in hell - by Night Owl - 03-23-2017, 03:03 PM
    RE: I am in hell - by Agua del Cielo - 03-23-2017, 03:09 PM
    RE: I am in hell - by sjel - 03-23-2017, 03:32 PM
    RE: I am in hell - by Night Owl - 03-23-2017, 05:04 PM
    RE: I am in hell - by sjel - 03-23-2017, 05:44 PM
    RE: I am in hell - by Night Owl - 03-23-2017, 06:43 PM
    RE: I am in hell - by Aion - 03-23-2017, 07:28 PM
    RE: I am in hell - by Agua del Cielo - 03-24-2017, 04:51 AM
    RE: I am in hell - by sjel - 03-24-2017, 04:57 AM
    RE: I am in hell - by Aion - 03-24-2017, 12:33 PM
    RE: I am in hell - by Agua del Cielo - 03-24-2017, 12:58 PM
    RE: I am in hell - by Aion - 03-24-2017, 01:14 PM
    RE: I am in hell - by kevn - 03-23-2017, 09:46 PM
    RE: I am in hell - by Agua del Cielo - 03-24-2017, 05:13 AM
    RE: I am in hell - by Minyatur - 03-24-2017, 08:05 AM
    RE: I am in hell - by smc - 03-24-2017, 09:45 AM
    RE: I am in hell - by Aion - 03-24-2017, 12:42 PM
    RE: I am in hell - by Agua del Cielo - 03-24-2017, 01:34 PM
    RE: I am in hell - by Aion - 03-24-2017, 01:40 PM
    RE: I am in hell - by Agua del Cielo - 03-24-2017, 01:49 PM
    RE: I am in hell - by Turtle - 03-25-2017, 10:44 AM
    RE: I am in hell - by sjel - 03-25-2017, 01:24 PM
    RE: I am in hell - by Infinite - 03-24-2017, 09:17 PM
    RE: I am in hell - by kevn - 03-25-2017, 12:29 PM
    RE: I am in hell - by Agua del Cielo - 03-25-2017, 01:53 PM
    RE: I am in hell - by sjel - 03-26-2017, 02:12 AM
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