03-22-2017, 01:48 PM
(03-22-2017, 11:40 AM)Mahakali Wrote: Hell? No, you're still a few molecules away from there.
I think the knowledge is attracted by desire, and not necessarily from any external consciousness other than the universe itself, as Ra stated in the case of the invention of the atom bomb.
Robert Svoboda's books (I highly, highly recommend) also mention that God has to come if the desire is strong enough, but it needs to be an absolutely insane desire; you have to be in a place of, "I'm gonna kill myself and dissolve my consciousness forever if God doesn't come", sort of desire.
I recently had an epiphany where I realized that, in one sense, the soul is our ability to comprehend and desire complex things. If you desire to go pick up a soda can, you automatically start to make it happen. And if you desire transcendence of limitation, the desire itself sends out an electromagnetic wave that makes your desire come a few iotas closer to reality. And anything is possible, because everything is connected. What you desire is control of catalyst through manipulation of light, occult sound waves (the kind that built the pyramids), and electromagnetism, and then transcence beyond these illusions. If you exist, everything you need is inside of you, but you have to find it.
I think the difficulties come when one realizes the limitations of the physical illusion as well as preincarnative decisions/karma/wyrd/sixth density self/whatever.
Now, it IS entirely possible to break out of one's wyrd... It's frowned upon by people who run our negatively polarized sphere, but just about anything frowned upon by them is generally worth doing, and this in particular is probably very difficult, but I've managed minor versions of it a few times.
The so-called disciplines of the personality are the key here. Your body is already interacting with prana, and your goal is to understand the shapes well enough to redirect and control the s*** in such a way as to manipulate prana and thus space and time, which is just training wheels for primal Chaos. And there are traps along the way, because this illusion sucks, and there comes a time where you have to figure things out yourself.
Either that, or access and use primal Chaos itself directly, which is everywhere and infinite and beyond the limitations of any illusion, even pranic geometries and chakras and the physical illusion and such, but this can be very dangerous, as well, because removing all limits while in even a slightly negative frame of mind, and/or without full knowledge of the series of distortions in which you find yourself, can launch you into Hell indeed - but doesn't have to, if you manage to energize the right distortions very purely.
Even in Hell, escape is possible.
"Underneath the shadows of the other side of time
If there is a Hell, then there must be a behind..."
Sure, they're a moralistic band, and the song didn't end happily, but he got out in the first place, and he can do it again... because even Hell has a time/space backstage, or whatever equivalent, and access to primal Chaos beyond that. "Even in the afterlife, things don't always go as planned..."
And in The Silmarillion's creation story, which is very laden with occult thought, it also mentions that there are things that even the highest beings outside of the One couldn't know or predict. Anything is truly possible, even if unlikely.
SSRF's web site mentions that in the lower layers of Hell, it's exceedingly difficult to do spiritual work because of the intense torment, but stops short of saying it's impossible. And people have escaped from Hell before. It's probably easier to do your time and try to get out with good behavior by listening to the jailers, but, "My friends, there is no truth in that which is finite, for every law is made to be broken, and indeed laws are usually after the fact so that you have already broken the laws, and that is why the laws were made.
There is something called faith which defeats all laws. It is not in law but in faith that you are able to concentrate upon the business at hand. The business at hand is your spiritual development. The business at hand is seeking. The business at hand is learning. There is not motivation to learn in the law—you simply follow directions. This is a cookbook life, the law; take a little of Law Number One, take two tablespoons of Law Number Two, mix carefully with a batch of Laws Six, Seven and Eight and you will learn?! No, my friends—you will conform."
(I often don't care for Quo, but that quote's fuckin' dope.)
Anyways, my point is... yes, you can do it. you already exist in all densities, even the knowledgeable ones. Is it easy? No. But the information is all just floating around, all consciousness is connected, and if you really desire transcendence more than you desire ANYTHING else, even eating and having a house and everything else that takes up energy, it'll have to come. You can't exist within a universe without every single law or bit of knowledge contained within it existing within your subconscious.
But how many people make it that far? Most get distracted by bread and circus tricks and scare tactics and lies and contrived limitations.
Good luck. Success is inevitable, if you want it enough.
I would mention on top of this that there is a special, relatively unknown class of entities who make it their work to scour these 'hellish' regions and offer aid to those who have trapped themselves there. Often their assistance is not recognized, but even in the deepest places of pain there are those who go to aid others, even at the cost of their own light if need be.
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