The victimization of men

[Aion]

I think you're missing my point. "Duality" IS the principle. The concepts which may be examined within it are its manifestations. You can call the two sides of the duality whatever you want and use as your base definition whatever fundamental concept you wish, but the principle is of duality itself. All dualities will be naturally alike because they all partake of the principle of duality. What you are talking about are descriptions which are an attempt to describe the dualistic relationship that exists as the principle.

As you say, the descriptions are unique to each in what will aid in understanding the principle.

Well how would you define the poles of the core principle if not that way.

I seem to have perceived male and female are used to define dualities well beyond just the masculine and femine energies we've been discussing in both the Ra material and outside the Ra material. Its been used to describe conscious and unconscious, greater sub-Logoi and lesser sub-Logoi, electrical charges, Yin and Yang and much more.

I wouldn't say they define dualities but only describe them. I use a very simple concept of "push and pull" as my fundamental concept, kind of magnetic I suppose. However, ultimately for me the principle is that of the qualities of numbers. Duality is the principle of the number two which is the fundamental archetypal concept. What makes male/female a useful description is due to the degree of dynamic that is possible to describe with it, I'm not saying it's not a useful description or tool for teaching, but the tool for teaching should not be confused with the principle concept itself.

By that token you could say that all those things have been used to described male/female, all dualities describing other dualities. However, in and of themselves none of those concepts are the principle of Duality itself but rather are encompassed by it in principle.

Well, I will agree that in a way you can consider all of these things to also be duality itself 'in essence', since manifestations are not entirely separate from their spurring principles and so in a fractal sort of way we could say that any of these dualities can be and is 'Duality' in some expression. Just as your hand is still you while being a distinct thing in and of itself. I guess the reason I arrange it the way I do in my head is because I do believe that numbers are somewhat more abstract than words, despite being two parts of the same thing, a duality if you will. As such, I view the creative processes as a concretization of the abstract and so everything begins with abstract qualitative numbers and then is formulated in to a more concrete 'word' or image as such. Kind of like atoms forming molecules and so on.