02-23-2017, 04:22 PM
I want to point out that we have different barriers in relation to this, certain people will have this ability unlocked without any effort on their part and even struggle to get actual unconscious sleep time (although they might not seek to reach the highest planes they can from there), whereas there are others (like me) who take mere seconds each day to fall into an abyss and rarely even recall any portion of any night. So while generalization are useful in a way, there is a highly personal work and each person has a unique veil to their mind.
Also sometimes you do succeed but it is not for your conscious mind to remember it. I've had so many times of being hyper lucid but to move behind a wall where my hyper lucid awareness cuts off from my conscious mind, often I remember nearing such states many times over and try to figure out how to not lose sight of where I'm going and it just repeats with an extremely clean cut. About those, I've had certain experiences that allowed me to see that it is often a choice made from behind the veil, I saw myself coming back from what might seem like an eternity to decide I wanted to retain no awareness of it here and see it all fall away like water rushing through my fingers until my mind turns back and remember nothing but the hole it left and the moment it all faded.
I've explored a tiny bit with salvia also and it kind of taught me that all I had to do is to practice daily to become able to have the freedom it grants me. Got to admit I did not really bother with that since I've acknowledged my own choice of those remaining separate for the meantime through the use of a veil I programmed to behave as it behaves. Once you get a sense of the astral planes or even higher densities, you can just seek to connect with it within and thin out the barrier that was placed upon your mind, but there are places your spirit can go that your mind cannot follow and as such it can only attain a sense of the moment out and the moment back in.
Usually in existence, it's all about seeking and initiatory experiences to provide direction for seeking.
Also sometimes you do succeed but it is not for your conscious mind to remember it. I've had so many times of being hyper lucid but to move behind a wall where my hyper lucid awareness cuts off from my conscious mind, often I remember nearing such states many times over and try to figure out how to not lose sight of where I'm going and it just repeats with an extremely clean cut. About those, I've had certain experiences that allowed me to see that it is often a choice made from behind the veil, I saw myself coming back from what might seem like an eternity to decide I wanted to retain no awareness of it here and see it all fall away like water rushing through my fingers until my mind turns back and remember nothing but the hole it left and the moment it all faded.
I've explored a tiny bit with salvia also and it kind of taught me that all I had to do is to practice daily to become able to have the freedom it grants me. Got to admit I did not really bother with that since I've acknowledged my own choice of those remaining separate for the meantime through the use of a veil I programmed to behave as it behaves. Once you get a sense of the astral planes or even higher densities, you can just seek to connect with it within and thin out the barrier that was placed upon your mind, but there are places your spirit can go that your mind cannot follow and as such it can only attain a sense of the moment out and the moment back in.
Usually in existence, it's all about seeking and initiatory experiences to provide direction for seeking.
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