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    APeacefulWarrior (Offline)

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    02-20-2017, 04:02 PM (This post was last modified: 02-20-2017, 04:07 PM by APeacefulWarrior.)
    (02-16-2017, 01:18 PM)Aion Wrote: I think what troubles me most about the contact is how accepting Ra is of the Orion interference and they just seem to 'let it happen' as it were.

    I'll admit for myself personally that this aspect of the Ra Material is what makes me most suspect. Some take it as a sign that it was pure, but to me it raises a whole slew of questions as to the 'actual identity' of Ra and whether or not there was two different entities or merely one playing at both sides or what. There being two entities accounts for the 'fluctuation' I experience when reading the material. The more transient, the darker the light. However, that could also be a function of one entity fluctuating, or rather the tuning of the instrument according to the questioning.

    The great concern and question is thus - why did it succeed? What lesson do we take from the suggestion? That to pursue the light is ultimately dangerous? I don't think it's an unreasonable caution to question it. Did the group simply make a deleterious mistake? Was it just 'chance' or was it programmed together by their higher selves? If it was, was the negative entity 'in contract' with them? Or did the negative entity appear as 'random' catalyst? The Creator always approaches itself...

    What ultimately is the relation between Ra and the negative entity? Ra claimed they are aware of nearly the entire galactic octave except for some of the upper reaches of seventh density so surely they knew 'who' the entity was. However as protection they offered it is better to not have names and instead to focus in on the Creator and loving. Was it Don's difficulty in doing this that made him vulnerable or was it when he took on Carla's accepting  that he embraced the negative to his detriment?

    Thanks for including some more resources to read on it, might gain some insight through their writings.

    Ra doesn't interfere for the same reason Congress doesn't dictate Game Of Thrones plotlines, or compel GRRM to reveal who survives.

    I'm sorry if that sounds harsh, but there's a reason Ra consistently used words like "illusion" and "dream" to describe the 3D realms.  There's a reason that, in the very first session, Ra said that "there is no polarity" and referred to it thereafter as a distortion.  There's a reason Ra, over and over, tried to discourage questioners from focusing too heavily on "transient" matters relating solely to 3D life, conspiracy theories, and similar topics.

    Fundamentally, the battles between positive and negative are just games.  Stories.  Dreams.

    These dreams serve useful purposes.  They give entities a chance to learn and grow and experience things.  They allow the Creator to continue exploring itself to the fullest possible extent.  They give folks something to do to pass time in infinity.  But at the end of the day, every entity no matter how "good" or "bad" is still on a road that will eventually lead them to abandon such pastimes and rejoin the Creator in Oneness.

    Not to mention, of course, that Intelligent Infinity is there and equally accessible to all entities, positive or negative, without any prejudice.

    Ra wanted those hearing\reading his words to try to look beyond such things.  For them to at least comprehend how little the outcome of any particular "battle" means in the grand scheme, even if they weren't ready to abandon such games yet.  After all, even the worst and most horrific possible 3D life is an eyeblink in the totality of experience an entity will accumulate in its journey from second to seventh density.  And either way, at the end of each incarnated veiled life, the veil lifts and -even at worst- it's more or less like waking up from a bad dream.

    Withholding the name of the negative entity and encouraging the group (and everyone else) to focus on loving/oneness was entirely consistent with his basic goal of teaching The Law of One.  And, on the other hand, giving the name of that entity -besides potentially infringing on its own free will- would entirely run counter to the LOO.  Because that negative entity is still part of Oneness, and encouraging\enabling an escalation of hostility between the group and it would undermine the entire point of his teachings.
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    Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Ashim - 02-03-2017, 04:22 AM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Infinite Unity - 02-03-2017, 11:27 AM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Ashim - 02-03-2017, 05:22 PM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Nía - 02-08-2017, 07:03 AM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Minyatur - 02-03-2017, 05:37 PM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Coordinate_Apotheosis - 02-03-2017, 11:33 PM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Ashim - 02-03-2017, 06:32 PM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by GentleReckoning - 02-12-2017, 03:06 AM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Ashim - 02-05-2017, 05:53 AM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Nía - 02-05-2017, 06:57 AM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Coordinate_Apotheosis - 02-05-2017, 07:27 AM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Ashim - 02-05-2017, 07:44 AM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Coordinate_Apotheosis - 02-05-2017, 07:52 AM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Infinite Unity - 02-05-2017, 09:22 PM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Aaron - 02-06-2017, 04:00 PM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Ashim - 02-06-2017, 06:43 PM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by flofrog - 02-06-2017, 07:34 PM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by AnthroHeart - 02-09-2017, 02:00 AM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Infinite Unity - 02-07-2017, 03:00 PM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Minyatur - 02-07-2017, 03:24 PM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Nía - 02-07-2017, 03:44 PM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Aion - 02-07-2017, 04:34 PM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Nicholas - 02-07-2017, 05:27 PM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Jade - 02-07-2017, 06:51 PM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Ashim - 02-08-2017, 06:50 AM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Infinite Unity - 02-08-2017, 07:23 AM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by smc - 02-09-2017, 12:07 AM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Ashim - 02-09-2017, 04:06 AM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by smc - 02-09-2017, 08:29 AM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Infinite Unity - 02-09-2017, 05:47 AM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by smc - 02-09-2017, 01:03 AM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Infinite Unity - 02-09-2017, 06:01 AM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Jade - 02-09-2017, 11:17 AM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Ashim - 02-09-2017, 01:08 PM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Infinite Unity - 02-10-2017, 09:10 AM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Kaaron - 02-11-2017, 04:51 PM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by smc - 02-11-2017, 11:16 PM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Kaaron - 02-12-2017, 12:01 AM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by smc - 02-12-2017, 01:39 AM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Infinite Unity - 02-11-2017, 05:31 PM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by alicewhite - 02-11-2017, 07:13 PM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Aion - 02-12-2017, 12:35 AM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Jade - 02-12-2017, 01:40 PM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Kaaron - 02-12-2017, 12:57 AM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Aion - 02-12-2017, 01:17 AM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by GentleReckoning - 02-12-2017, 01:36 AM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Aion - 02-12-2017, 01:46 AM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by outerheaven - 02-12-2017, 11:09 AM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Aion - 02-12-2017, 07:35 PM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Muad-dib - 02-13-2017, 11:49 AM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Jade - 02-13-2017, 12:00 PM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Aion - 02-13-2017, 12:10 PM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Aion - 02-13-2017, 12:20 PM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Jade - 02-13-2017, 12:32 PM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Aion - 02-13-2017, 06:26 PM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Jade - 02-14-2017, 12:43 PM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Aion - 02-14-2017, 03:54 PM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Infinite Unity - 02-13-2017, 03:50 PM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Spooner - 02-13-2017, 08:10 PM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Turtle - 02-13-2017, 10:08 PM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by smc - 02-14-2017, 01:28 AM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by smc - 02-14-2017, 02:06 AM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Spooner - 02-14-2017, 12:11 PM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Infinite Unity - 02-14-2017, 12:21 PM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by smc - 02-25-2017, 09:55 AM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by anon_guy24526 - 02-25-2017, 05:11 PM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Infinite Unity - 03-10-2017, 01:08 PM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Infinite Unity - 03-10-2017, 01:04 PM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Kaaron - 02-14-2017, 02:35 PM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Coordinate_Apotheosis - 02-14-2017, 02:48 PM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Infinite Unity - 02-16-2017, 08:44 AM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by hounsic - 02-14-2017, 03:53 PM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Aurora Borealis - 02-14-2017, 02:06 AM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Infinite Unity - 02-14-2017, 11:36 AM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Infinite Unity - 02-14-2017, 12:09 PM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Infinite Unity - 02-14-2017, 12:15 PM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Minyatur - 02-14-2017, 01:06 PM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Jade - 02-14-2017, 07:03 PM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Coordinate_Apotheosis - 02-15-2017, 06:40 AM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Jade - 02-15-2017, 01:24 PM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Coordinate_Apotheosis - 02-15-2017, 03:39 PM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Nía - 02-21-2017, 03:42 AM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Aion - 02-14-2017, 04:55 PM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Aion - 02-14-2017, 05:26 PM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Ashim - 02-14-2017, 06:03 PM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Aion - 02-16-2017, 01:20 PM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Muad-dib - 02-15-2017, 07:49 AM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by smc - 02-15-2017, 11:25 AM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Infinite Unity - 02-15-2017, 03:43 PM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Minyatur - 02-15-2017, 01:55 PM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Muad-dib - 02-15-2017, 02:40 PM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Minyatur - 02-15-2017, 03:13 PM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Muad-dib - 02-15-2017, 03:24 PM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Infinite Unity - 02-15-2017, 03:38 PM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Coordinate_Apotheosis - 02-16-2017, 10:32 AM
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    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Jade - 02-16-2017, 11:36 AM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Kaaron - 02-16-2017, 02:16 PM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Aion - 02-16-2017, 01:18 PM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by APeacefulWarrior - 02-20-2017, 04:02 PM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by flofrog - 02-23-2017, 12:08 PM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Coordinate_Apotheosis - 02-16-2017, 05:26 PM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Kaaron - 02-16-2017, 10:11 PM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Coordinate_Apotheosis - 02-17-2017, 09:46 AM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Verum Occultum - 02-17-2017, 01:55 PM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Infinite Unity - 02-20-2017, 10:41 AM
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    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Aion - 02-20-2017, 09:46 PM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Nía - 02-21-2017, 03:20 AM
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    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Ashim - 02-28-2017, 04:23 PM
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