04-15-2009, 10:16 AM
Hello Jason, and thank you for joining in. Yours was an excellent post and stated eloquently a few points that we had danced around without directly addressing before. Please allow me to comment on some of your insights.
This is really a critical point to bear in mind. Yes, it is vitally important that we perform actions that are self-serving. Many of the things we do every day must be done for ourselves, if for no other reason than to allow us to continue to live and thrive in this 3D world. For if we are not here, then we cannot directly influence what transpires here.
This is one reason why I avoid the term 'evil' associated with STS behavior. It is not evil to care for yourself, and can even be considered quite positive from the perspective that those self-serving actions which allow you to more fruitfully exist on this plane are like an investment of your time that will yield additional STO actions in the future.
Here, here! I agree entirely. I have found that by recognizing and embracing the STS tendencies in myself, I can better accept the magnified equivalent of them in STS polarized individuals. Thus, it is easier for me to "open myself without hesitation" to them.
You also touch here, on a significant point about 'the choice'. I've come to think of those who are asleep as circling around two vortexes, one of STS motivations and one of STO motivations. Prior to their choice, they spend much more time circling the STS vortex, but still on its periphery, such that the STO vortex influences them and pulls at them, keeping them from passing too deep into STS's gravitational pull. As time passes they eventually become caught in one vortex's pull or the other, like a satellite that will eventually fall to Earth (its fate is determined, but it may take a long time to reach the inescapable destination). At this point, their bias is established and their polarization is set (i.e., their 'choice' is made). From this point on they are merely gaining sufficient polarization to allow them to contact intelligent energy through their chosen path. This ultimate degree of polarization in 3D represents harvestability for the given choice (conveniently expressed as 51% STO or 95% STS respectively).
As the individual falls farther toward their chosen vortex, they are less and less influenced by the other vortex (but never break entirely free of it, at least in 3D). When following the STS path, greater and greater concentration on the self results in the "loss of compassion and empathy" that you refer to, and can easily result in the entity choosing actions that our societies would deem "evil". By the same token, progressing farther and farther into the STO vortex will, at extreme levels result in actions our society would deem ascetic to the point of self destructive. This, I think is one reason why we find the mix of 51% STO, for clearly we are here to live and experience the joys you describe, and are not all on a path to asceticism.
Well said, good friend. I wish you godspeed in, and send your joy on, your quest!
3D Sunset
(04-14-2009, 06:30 PM)ubergud Wrote: The percentage of 51% is important I think because you should not think the 49% you spend on yourself is not valuable, or was wasted on STS ['evil']. If enjoying something in life (i.e. a bicycle ride, beer, or philosophical discussion) is STS and is 'evil', then may we all be 51% STO and 49% STS.
This is really a critical point to bear in mind. Yes, it is vitally important that we perform actions that are self-serving. Many of the things we do every day must be done for ourselves, if for no other reason than to allow us to continue to live and thrive in this 3D world. For if we are not here, then we cannot directly influence what transpires here.
This is one reason why I avoid the term 'evil' associated with STS behavior. It is not evil to care for yourself, and can even be considered quite positive from the perspective that those self-serving actions which allow you to more fruitfully exist on this plane are like an investment of your time that will yield additional STO actions in the future.
Quote:That said, I believe the systems we have in place are STS systems (i.e. governments/laws/lobbyists; money holds too much sway over laws rather than compassion and honesty), I think that 'evil' comes about as a result of a degree of STS in entities that is so high, that one loses touch with compassion and empathy for others due to a degree of self-focus that ignores other entities, and the resulting associated behaviors are disharmonious. That is, I do not think that STS is evil itself, but leads to actions we would call evil for the aforementioned reasons.
Here, here! I agree entirely. I have found that by recognizing and embracing the STS tendencies in myself, I can better accept the magnified equivalent of them in STS polarized individuals. Thus, it is easier for me to "open myself without hesitation" to them.
You also touch here, on a significant point about 'the choice'. I've come to think of those who are asleep as circling around two vortexes, one of STS motivations and one of STO motivations. Prior to their choice, they spend much more time circling the STS vortex, but still on its periphery, such that the STO vortex influences them and pulls at them, keeping them from passing too deep into STS's gravitational pull. As time passes they eventually become caught in one vortex's pull or the other, like a satellite that will eventually fall to Earth (its fate is determined, but it may take a long time to reach the inescapable destination). At this point, their bias is established and their polarization is set (i.e., their 'choice' is made). From this point on they are merely gaining sufficient polarization to allow them to contact intelligent energy through their chosen path. This ultimate degree of polarization in 3D represents harvestability for the given choice (conveniently expressed as 51% STO or 95% STS respectively).
As the individual falls farther toward their chosen vortex, they are less and less influenced by the other vortex (but never break entirely free of it, at least in 3D). When following the STS path, greater and greater concentration on the self results in the "loss of compassion and empathy" that you refer to, and can easily result in the entity choosing actions that our societies would deem "evil". By the same token, progressing farther and farther into the STO vortex will, at extreme levels result in actions our society would deem ascetic to the point of self destructive. This, I think is one reason why we find the mix of 51% STO, for clearly we are here to live and experience the joys you describe, and are not all on a path to asceticism.
Quote:Personally, I seek joy. Joy for me comes from being around those who are joyous. This is a difficult world to be in for that reason, as not everyone is joyous. Attempting to lift the veil for others around me has not changed that ... usually those discussions end in less joy. So I cannot be happy as an ostrich (with my head in the sand), but neither can I be happy spreading fear ... so I sought a greater truth to allow me to find a modicum of peace where I seek joy. So I continue to seek solace in a greater perspective, and hoping that peace will support hope ... hope for the joy I truly seek.
Well said, good friend. I wish you godspeed in, and send your joy on, your quest!
3D Sunset