02-15-2017, 03:39 PM
(02-15-2017, 01:24 PM)Bring4th_Jade Wrote: ...
OH! I wasn't implying, more speculating regards any of L/L's behaviors. I don't think they'd sue, but I don't know. I do admit I misunderstood you in regards to others channeling Ra. I apologize, I'm sorry. You made it sound more like it's almost considered impossible to me, so that misunderstanding is on me.
And I didn't mean to sound like I was inferring you were discouraging others from channeling Ra for money's sake, I merely brought that up as one of my random thoughts regards a potential issue that might occur. It made me wonder how L/L would go about such things, hence my questions. Again, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to offend you! I just wonder as to the purity of anything, L/L included.
Why would a war veteran walk back into war? I wouldn't expect those from the original group to continue through that traumatic set of experiences, but that doesn't mean others won't try. A few war veterans didn't discourage more people from going to war. I doubt Carla's suffering and Don's death will dissuade some people from attempting to contact Ra. Still though, your concern for others sanity is precisely what I was saying you should caution to others.
The major concern is that the contact itself almost seems vampyric in that the contact itself drains the 'Vital' energies of the one channeling.
The second major concern is the attraction of highly polarized service to self entities who would seek to end the contact through any means including murder.
The third concern seems to be in the extraneous efforts required to maintain protection and efficacy of the contact.
Without any of those considered, I would view attempts to contact Ra as asking for trouble. Yet, I also think that if L/L withholds the information to maintain the efforts of protection and efficacy from a group seeking to channel Ra, it'd look highly suspicious. I'm not saying they do or have, but I don't know.
How could Ra have found them if they didn't have that desire to be found in some way? For the exact reason of Ra attempting to correct their introduced distortions is why I believe Ra might still try to make contact to another group able to produce another pure material. Albeit I think the process might not begin again in my lifetime considering they have been around for a while, but in that sense I think it's important to not engender the idea of contacting them as forbidden.
Going to have to agree, it's hard to believe dropping acid, eating shrooms, and smoking pot is going to make a sustainable and clear contact possible.
Quote:Don went so crazy, because of their efforts to channel Ra, that he killed himself.
I'm going to be a bit brass here with this. I don't know what the hell to believe. Between the lack of information regards the way Don already was as some have referred to him in less than flattering ways while others have said he literally kept Carla almost like a slave at times out of fear for her life. I don't know what to believe, but from what I have read, he was trying to be forced into a hospital. He had a warrant served to him (unspecified what for), and had a standoff with the police who, for some reason, tear-gassed the house (which seems unusual to me but considering police brutality concerns, not surprising), he then walked outside into the backyard with a gun in his hand and shot himself.
There's A LOT of missing information and I can't surmise anything to be true or false. Did he point the gun at police? Why did they show up at all? Why had no one thought to stop contacting Ra? What's all the truth in this situation?
And why is there, at least to me, such a 'hush-hush' feeling around the entire thing?
Don didn't sound 'crazy', he sounded like he was in an extreme state of distress. It sounds like a set of circumstances all culminating to an extremely stressful moment that was abysmally handled by what sounds like everyone present. The police shouldn't have showed up for whatever reason they did. Whoever sent the police shouldn't have done that. Don shouldn't have been forced into a hospital if he didn't want to go so badly that he'd rather die. Between the two choices of sending him to a hospital or letting him be, some kind of compromise must have been possible, such as permanently ending the contact if it was starting to deteriorate Carla' body AND Don's mind. That is just asking for trouble to continue going, and yet they did, and it was the prerogative to do so.
I don't know what's real or true regards Don, but I don't want to accept his being called crazy or the way he is presented leading up to this death. He was sane enough to grab a gun and shoot himself. How easy it is to write off someone who's suicidal as crazy, how easy it is to call anyone crazy when we don't understand what they were going through. I feel that there are some secrets being kept and I'm not really in the mood to poke at them, but there's more to that story, and to write it all up as he went crazy and killed himself I find highly offensive to my pursuit of the truth. That's too simple, too convenient.
What's the story around that entire scenario? How are we supposed to surmise anything regards the way things ended when we don't know the full details? I could speculate but they'd probably be offensive sounding so I'll refrain from doing so.
I read, in the final channeling on March 15, 1984 such questions by Don as:
Quote:"I’m going to come back to a couple of points here, but I have to get in a question here about myself. It’d seem to be critical at this point. Can Ra tell me what is physically wrong with me, and what’s causing it, and what I could do to alleviate it?"
"Could Ra recommend what I should do to improve my state of health?"
Then his death in the epilogue is recorded as happening on November 7, 1984
I'm curious as to if anything else was channeled after this or if the group did stop contact temporarily or permanently in order to heal. The 8 months between the last channeling to his death... There's so many questions I have that I know won't be answered... Did he lose his mind enough so to accurately be called crazy in those 8 months? Why did a 'crazy' person have access to a gun?
I don't mean to offend, but I am moved greatly into sadness by hearing Don be called crazy. Could you please elucidate on why you describe him as having gone crazy? Was he eating bugs or looking into radically irrational ways to do things?