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    Minyatur (Offline)

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    02-15-2017, 01:55 PM (This post was last modified: 02-15-2017, 02:13 PM by Minyatur.)
    @Muad-dib

    I don't necessarily think everything you said is wrong in any way, but I think you might perceive contradictions where there isn't necessarily any?

    What you call avoidance I see as a striving that many of us inherently contain. We are many to walk different paths, we are many to experience different passions, is this not most natural?

    The path of adepthood is one where one is to clear it's lower rays so that they do not block the flow to the higher rays, so the path of adepthood and the striving for higher knowledge cannot be without a joint focus upon the lower rays. I think the imbalance of threads relating to this work is more that it is a highly personal work and most probably feel like what's been covered covers what they needed to seek in relation to that, and what's left is to apply the knowledge into one's life on a daily basis. Whereas a higher striving is more of a joint-seeking toward a common truth that requires keys to be accessed. Many seek to see beyond confusion and not dwell within it.

    I might postulate back that avoidance of seeking higher wisdom might just be avoidance of some to know both themselves and the Creator with true deepness as a mean to dwell within the ego. So it does seem like a matter of perspective.



    In regards to your comment that there is no difference in-between a native entity and a wanderer, I would beg to differ. We are mind/body/spirit complexes and while the mind/body aspect remains of 3D, the spirit of a wanderer is not of 3D and is an integral portion of what a mind/body/spirit complex is, and it seems to me that to take away this portion is to remove a huge aspect of seeking to know yourself. The main aspect that draws them together is the veil and confusion, which is in no way an integral aspect of what 3D is but instead an aspect of experiments to make 3D a more vivid experience, were this space not veiled I doubt there would be any wanderer because they would not blend in even as 3D mind/body/spirit complexes. To me, I would think there can be a very big difference even in-between two 6D wanderers were they able to both see themselves inhabiting the same mind/body complex, it could yield extremely different lifetimes for each of them because confusion has a talent of mirroring our time/space imbalances, making what we are above more complete through the process and the more this time/space self is complete, the least it will be fractalized or torn within confusion. This is the main aspect of why wandering does a great work of accelerating 6D evolution, you stop being bound to your balanced aspects to instead become slave to your unbalanced aspects without the sight of the balanced ones. I think to take a positive entity and force it into a negative density would do a similar work, the entity would become focused on it's imbalances until they reach balance and only then would it be able to perceive it's light self again. In the same fashion, here you require to balance your imbalances to reach a sight that is without confusion.

    I do believe there is no better between lower and higher, those are co-dependant in their manifestation and each walks each height, but they are terms that refer to something concrete nevertheless. If you start piercing your veil in the seeking of yourself, you won't awaken to being a 3D native but will begin to grasp the higher aspects of yourself that ever were present in everything you have been ever since your birth. The present moment is now and every densities also are here and now for those who seek them. In my view the true shadow self lies behind our veils, the architech of our lower shadow selves and every unconscious behaviors.

    So what I will ask back at you, are you not truly only limiting what you can become here and now?
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    Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Ashim - 02-03-2017, 04:22 AM
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    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by GentleReckoning - 02-12-2017, 03:06 AM
    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Ashim - 02-05-2017, 05:53 AM
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    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Coordinate_Apotheosis - 02-05-2017, 07:27 AM
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    RE: Personal Experience of "Mind Control" - by Infinite Unity - 02-05-2017, 09:22 PM
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