Personal Experience of "Mind Control"

[Jade]

Right on, it's very true that we all just see what we want in the elements that Ra presents. I'm just trying to present what Ra has said about things more thoroughly. Your initial post said "Ra didn't say LSD was bad and even said it could be helpful" which is only partially true. There are obvious drawbacks that Ra mentioned were possible, and really what I'm talking about are the manifestations of ill effects experienced by Carla. I mean, if a weakening of the vital energies was the negative entities who planned this experience's plan C, I can only imagine what it might have done to someone who had weaker spiritual energies than Carla, as that was her strength. Apparently a loss in polarity and a negative sexual energy transfer with Jim were the real prizes - three months + of increased illness was just the consolation prize.

For sure, in the context of Carla I can agree with you. However, I would not take that to mean that every experience with LSD ever is manufactured by negative entities, that seems a little far-fetched to me but seems to be the warning you are trying to put forward?

There were both drawbacks and benefits described by Ra and the helpfulness/unhelpfulness of which was conditional to Carla's condition.

Just for curiosity, do you have much personal experience with LSD?

Although perhaps we should continue this in another thread (there probably already is one, I know I've had this discussion before lol).

I think intoxicants are probably one of the most controversial elements in spiritual circles.

I have never taken LSD, and probably wouldn't if offered. My husband has taken enough for the both of us. I've taken shrooms several times, that's my hallucinogen of choice. Got any?

My point was never to advocate against LSD, my point was to be wary about synthetic marijuana chemicals. I was just using the Ra quotes about LSD because they seemed applicable.

I am not against LSD. To me, it seems like you're advocating that people SHOULD use LSD and try to channel Ra - which is the only reason I've been going on with you about this. Why is that? If intoxicants are so controversial, why are you acting like it wouldn't affect anyone if they just took a little LSD and tried to contact entities? Why are you saying things like "Ra never said LSD was bad" when they obviously had warnings about using it (general warnings, not just for Carla)? Why are you saying that Ra never condemns or condones the use of LSD when they clearly state that Carla should not use it?

I'm also not saying that all LSD is from negative entities or anything of the sort. But even when Carla used it for "programming service to others", it was set up by the negative entities because the drawbacks were more substantial than the benefits. My warning being that if an entity is ENCOURAGING you to take SYNTHETIC CHEMICALS to BLOW OPEN YOUR UPPER CHAKRAS, maybe in the context of the Law of One that this should be a red flag, and that maybe the entity doesn't have your best interests in mind and that maybe you shouldn't do it.

Now for the third or fourth time I've inserted this quote in this thread:

That is the work of wind and fire. The spiritual body energy field is a pathway, or channel. When body and mind are receptive and open, then the spirit can become a functioning shuttle or communicator from the entity’s individual energy of will upwards, and from the streamings of the creative fire and wind downwards.

The healing ability, like all other, what this instrument would call paranormal abilities, is effected by the opening of a pathway or shuttle into intelligent infinity. There are many upon your plane who have a random hole or gateway in their spirit energy field, sometimes created by the ingestion of chemicals such as, what this instrument would call LSD, who are able, randomly and without control, to tap into energy sources. They may or may not be entities who wish to serve. The purpose of carefully and consciously opening this channel is to serve in a more dependable way, in a more commonplace or usual way, as seen by the distortion complex of the healer. To others there may appear to be miracles. To the one who has carefully opened the door to intelligent infinity this is ordinary; this is commonplace; this is as it should be. The life experience becomes somewhat transformed and the great work goes on.

I'm not arguing for/against LSD. I'm making statements of caution based upon what the Ra material says about these things. I'd rather take Ra's advice to carefully and consciously work on opening the channel to intelligent infinity. Slower work, but less dangerous.