12-05-2016, 02:58 PM
(12-05-2016, 02:20 PM)anagogy Wrote: I agree completely. "Leaving the body" is really more of a cognitive distancing from this plane of vibration. Many people think you have to have a sort of terrifying vibrational experience to "separate" but really the vibrational state is just something you experience when you are trying to hold onto the consciousness of the physical world and carry it with you into the higher levels vibration (many parts of that square peg of consciousness don't fit into the round hole of time/space), its like water skiing and then falling and getting dragged along the surface of the water. It's really rough because you are perceiving the resistance and friction between the boundary strength of the water surface/air convergence point. On other hand if you were fully above the water, or fully below it, the resistance is mostly non perceivable. Similarly, when you naturally go to sleep, you seamlessly sink below the surface with no perceptual vibrational experience. It is a far smoother transition into time/space. And if you talk to people who have been consciously projecting for a while, you find that the "vibrational state" upon exiting their body gets less and less rough as time goes on (like a stone in river it begins to wear down the hard edges of thought that create resistance on that plane -- the stone becomes smooth). And if you leave your body via lucid dream state you don't experience it at all, because you have already seamlessly transitioned gently to the new state of consciousness.Wow Anagogy, it's so great you can relate and help me understand this further.
My experience has been the further you get away from the physical vibration the more "warped" time becomes. In normal dreaming you are usually not that far away from the physical so the warping is not too bad, but if you get even further away (like during conscious astral projection, and some rare dreams), you might return and feel like an hour had passed but physically it was only about 15 minutes. I can imagine that if you got even further away from our native space/time that time would seemingly stop altogether (relative to the physical world).
I'm not a great dreamer, rather I at least don't usually remember dreams so I have not explored lucid dreaming and have only been astral from a sleep state spontaneously when I "wake up" floating in my bedroom or seeing astral again always in my bedroom from a sleep state and the surprise snaps me back in the body.
It would be amazing to be able to do it at will from a waking state.
The first time it happened someone had been insisting I was wrong about my perception for a year and he behaved in a way in keeping with what he said. In my gut I knew deeply he was lying but after a year I was so confused and loosened my grip on this reality. I got about 2 feet to my right and above my body before I unintentionally pulled myself back. I would have loved to just leave if I had known how. And yes he later admitted to lying .... another year later.
Last night after my insident I so badly on my way home had an urge to just go be with the waves and the wind at the beach. I stopped in the dark and watched the water, the waves were so beautiful but it didn't quench I really knew I wanted to spend time being the waves and the shore and the wind.
If I could separate at will I could do that and come back. It would be amazing!
I guess if cognitive dissonance is the trigger and letting reality go is the door then it might become difficult to stay here in this illusion if we separate consciously to often.
Anything you find interesting you wish to share I would love to hear Anagogy. I have very little experience here but it's fascinating and yet another gift