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    12-03-2016, 09:50 AM
    (12-01-2016, 06:05 PM)Infinite Wrote:
    (12-01-2016, 02:11 PM)Bring4th_Austin Wrote: I really see this as being metaphorical. Ra is using Biblical mythology here: the term "Edenic," and referring to "the knowledge of good and evil" (from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil), along with the mention of Lucifer. If we are to interpret this passage as referring to a literal Lucifer who offered these conditions, one would have to logically interpret the rest of the Biblical metaphorical terminology as literal - there was a literal Garden of Eden on Earth in which the two original humans, Adam and Eve, lived in harmonious conditions until eating literal fruit from a literal tree. And Lucifer was literally as he was described in the Bible. To say that Lucifer is as you described in the OP is already to interpret Lucifer as described in the Bible as a metaphor, so I think what we're doing is figuring out what interpretation of that metaphor makes more sense or fits best with the Law of One.

    Ra's entire use of the Lucifer metaphor is couched in a less metaphorical description of how the Logoi have progressed through a series of experiments which then landed on the veil offering the ability to manifest the two polarities. They even talk about Logoi actively choosing to enact the "free will character," which is the implementation of the veil and the ability to polarize on the negative path.

    It would be interesting to see how your original description in the OP would fit with Ra's description of how the sub-Logoi landed on using the veil and how it is implemented, if you do feel they are compatible.

    Thanks for you reply. I respect absolutely. Yes, it's possible see this like a metaphore. But the word "Logos" give a different mean to these words. Ra could spoken "entity" or "character" but he used word "Logos". I don't see metaphore in this passage but a example. And about Lucifer and the Edenic Garden. In a lot of sources the information it's similar:

    - The Garden of Eden was a etheric place.
    - Adam and Eva was not a pair but a race. The adamic race.
    - They was living in the unity of consciousness.
    - Lucifer come and implemented the freewill and duality "experimentation system". The man "falled", was divided in women and men (the adamic race was androgine).
    - The tree of knowledge of good and evil it's the knowledge of polarity, good and evil, etc.
    - The "fruit" was a portal to the lower dimensions.
    - This "fall" happended to accelerat the consciousness evolution.

    Peace, love and light.

    Based on other sources I have come across in addition to Ra Material, here's my interpretation:

    1. Lucifer is related to design at the Logo level. He's the metaphorical "light-bringer" that changed the logo design to include free will.
    2. Adam and Eve is definitely about human race and earth-related, though "race" may have a much boarder meaning than what we commonly believe.
    3. Earth or part of this Logo was in a Edenic condition (even though free will was implemented in the Logo) before some event that brought in the negative influence thus accelerated the polarization. The event is metaphorically described as snake temping A&E eating the fruit from the tree of knowledge. The snake indicates it was another race, and probably from the Orion group.

    and yes, STS/STO is the implementation of the duality of this Logo.
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    Lucifer was the creator of STO/STS paradigm? - by Infinite - 11-28-2016, 11:37 AM
    RE: Lucifer was the creator of STO/STS paradigm? - by anagogy - 11-28-2016, 11:52 AM
    RE: Lucifer was the creator of STO/STS paradigm? - by Turtle - 11-28-2016, 03:03 PM
    RE: Lucifer was the creator of STO/STS paradigm? - by kristina - 04-30-2019, 02:15 PM
    RE: Lucifer was the creator of STO/STS paradigm? - by GreatSpirit - 11-29-2016, 02:58 AM
    RE: Lucifer was the creator of STO/STS paradigm? - by Bring4th_Austin - 11-30-2016, 06:37 PM
    RE: Lucifer was the creator of STO/STS paradigm? - by Infinite - 11-30-2016, 07:15 PM
    RE: Lucifer was the creator of STO/STS paradigm? - by Bring4th_Austin - 12-01-2016, 02:11 PM
    RE: Lucifer was the creator of STO/STS paradigm? - by APeacefulWarrior - 12-01-2016, 02:34 PM
    RE: Lucifer was the creator of STO/STS paradigm? - by Learner - 12-03-2016, 11:34 AM
    RE: Lucifer was the creator of STO/STS paradigm? - by Infinite - 12-01-2016, 06:05 PM
    RE: Lucifer was the creator of STO/STS paradigm? - by Learner - 12-03-2016, 09:50 AM
    RE: Lucifer was the creator of STO/STS paradigm? - by Minyatur - 12-01-2016, 08:23 PM
    RE: Lucifer was the creator of STO/STS paradigm? - by Kaaron - 12-01-2016, 11:08 PM
    RE: Lucifer was the creator of STO/STS paradigm? - by Minyatur - 12-01-2016, 11:41 PM
    RE: Lucifer was the creator of STO/STS paradigm? - by BlatzAdict - 12-03-2016, 11:35 AM
    RE: Lucifer was the creator of STO/STS paradigm? - by Infinite - 12-03-2016, 06:22 PM
    RE: Lucifer was the creator of STO/STS paradigm? - by Infinite Unity - 12-04-2016, 07:27 PM
    RE: Lucifer was the creator of STO/STS paradigm? - by AnthroHeart - 12-04-2016, 07:35 PM
    RE: Lucifer was the creator of STO/STS paradigm? - by Infinite - 12-04-2016, 09:48 PM
    RE: Lucifer was the creator of STO/STS paradigm? - by Turtle - 12-06-2016, 07:42 PM
    RE: Lucifer was the creator of STO/STS paradigm? - by anagogy - 12-04-2016, 08:08 PM
    RE: Lucifer was the creator of STO/STS paradigm? - by sjel - 04-11-2017, 12:01 PM
    RE: Lucifer was the creator of STO/STS paradigm? - by anagogy - 04-13-2017, 04:53 PM
    RE: Lucifer was the creator of STO/STS paradigm? - by sjel - 04-13-2017, 05:51 PM
    RE: Lucifer was the creator of STO/STS paradigm? - by anagogy - 04-13-2017, 06:05 PM
    RE: Lucifer was the creator of STO/STS paradigm? - by loostudent - 04-16-2017, 07:41 AM
    RE: Lucifer was the creator of STO/STS paradigm? - by anagogy - 04-16-2017, 07:47 AM
    RE: Lucifer was the creator of STO/STS paradigm? - by kristina - 04-30-2019, 02:33 PM
    RE: Lucifer was the creator of STO/STS paradigm? - by im_not_me - 12-06-2016, 07:20 AM
    RE: Lucifer was the creator of STO/STS paradigm? - by Ashim - 12-06-2016, 05:01 PM
    RE: Lucifer was the creator of STO/STS paradigm? - by tamaryn - 12-07-2016, 04:58 PM
    RE: Lucifer was the creator of STO/STS paradigm? - by Infinite - 12-24-2016, 06:36 PM
    RE: Lucifer was the creator of STO/STS paradigm? - by kristina - 04-30-2019, 02:30 PM
    RE: Lucifer was the creator of STO/STS paradigm? - by BlatzAdict - 12-24-2016, 06:45 PM
    RE: Lucifer was the creator of STO/STS paradigm? - by Infinite - 12-24-2016, 07:25 PM
    RE: Lucifer was the creator of STO/STS paradigm? - by Infinite - 04-11-2017, 12:33 PM
    RE: Lucifer was the creator of STO/STS paradigm? - by Minyatur - 04-11-2017, 01:03 PM
    RE: Lucifer was the creator of STO/STS paradigm? - by Glow - 04-11-2017, 05:56 PM
    RE: Lucifer was the creator of STO/STS paradigm? - by Glow - 04-11-2017, 06:07 PM
    RE: Lucifer was the creator of STO/STS paradigm? - by Minyatur - 04-11-2017, 06:24 PM
    RE: Lucifer was the creator of STO/STS paradigm? - by Glow - 04-11-2017, 09:28 PM
    RE: Lucifer was the creator of STO/STS paradigm? - by Henosis - 04-13-2017, 01:39 PM
    RE: Lucifer was the creator of STO/STS paradigm? - by loostudent - 04-14-2017, 05:59 AM
    RE: Lucifer was the creator of STO/STS paradigm? - by Henosis - 04-19-2017, 02:39 PM
    RE: Lucifer was the creator of STO/STS paradigm? - by anagogy - 04-19-2017, 03:13 PM
    RE: Lucifer was the creator of STO/STS paradigm? - by Henosis - 04-19-2017, 04:24 PM
    RE: Lucifer was the creator of STO/STS paradigm? - by Minyatur - 04-19-2017, 07:06 PM
    RE: Lucifer was the creator of STO/STS paradigm? - by anagogy - 04-19-2017, 08:24 PM
    RE: Lucifer was the creator of STO/STS paradigm? - by Henosis - 04-19-2017, 08:45 PM
    RE: Lucifer was the creator of STO/STS paradigm? - by Minyatur - 04-19-2017, 10:08 PM
    RE: Lucifer was the creator of STO/STS paradigm? - by Henosis - 04-20-2017, 10:26 AM
    RE: Lucifer was the creator of STO/STS paradigm? - by Minyatur - 04-20-2017, 11:52 AM
    RE: Lucifer was the creator of STO/STS paradigm? - by Henosis - 04-20-2017, 12:38 PM
    RE: Lucifer was the creator of STO/STS paradigm? - by Minyatur - 04-20-2017, 01:08 PM
    RE: Lucifer was the creator of STO/STS paradigm? - by Infinite Unity - 04-20-2017, 02:50 PM
    RE: Lucifer was the creator of STO/STS paradigm? - by Minyatur - 04-20-2017, 12:07 PM
    RE: Lucifer was the creator of STO/STS paradigm? - by Patrick - 04-20-2017, 07:05 PM
    RE: Lucifer was the creator of STO/STS paradigm? - by miks - 04-21-2017, 02:23 AM
    RE: Lucifer was the creator of STO/STS paradigm? - by Glow - 04-25-2017, 04:38 PM
    RE: Lucifer was the creator of STO/STS paradigm? - by Infinite - 04-21-2017, 09:45 AM
    RE: Lucifer was the creator of STO/STS paradigm? - by Minyatur - 04-21-2017, 10:01 AM
    RE: Lucifer was the creator of STO/STS paradigm? - by Infinite - 04-25-2017, 09:44 AM
    RE: Lucifer was the creator of STO/STS paradigm? - by MangusKhan - 04-25-2017, 10:12 PM
    RE: Lucifer was the creator of STO/STS paradigm? - by Infinite - 04-26-2017, 04:02 PM
    RE: Lucifer was the creator of STO/STS paradigm? - by Infinite - 04-27-2017, 09:37 AM
    RE: Lucifer was the creator of STO/STS paradigm? - by Glow - 04-27-2017, 02:37 PM
    RE: Lucifer was the creator of STO/STS paradigm? - by Infinite - 04-27-2017, 04:03 PM
    RE: Lucifer was the creator of STO/STS paradigm? - by Infinite Unity - 04-27-2017, 07:56 PM
    RE: Lucifer was the creator of STO/STS paradigm? - by Infinite - 02-28-2019, 09:25 AM
    RE: Lucifer was the creator of STO/STS paradigm? - by Bring4th_Austin - 02-28-2019, 02:09 PM
    RE: Lucifer was the creator of STO/STS paradigm? - by loostudent - 02-28-2019, 06:07 PM
    RE: Lucifer was the creator of STO/STS paradigm? - by Infinite Unity - 03-03-2019, 08:38 AM
    RE: Lucifer was the creator of STO/STS paradigm? - by loostudent - 03-03-2019, 10:51 AM
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    RE: Lucifer was the creator of STO/STS paradigm? - by Infinite - 02-28-2019, 04:02 PM
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