12-01-2016, 02:11 PM
(11-30-2016, 07:15 PM)Infinite Wrote: But Ra talked about Lucifer (in a very similar concept of the esoteric traditions):
Quote:Questioner: Would it be possible for this work of our density to be performed if all of the sub-Logoi chose the same polarity in any particular expression or evolution of a Logos? Let us make the assumption that our sun created nothing but, through the first distortion, positive polarity. There was no product except positive polarity. Would work then be done in fourth density and higher as a function of only the positive polarization evolving from the original creation of our sub-Logos?
Ra: I am Ra. Elements of this query illustrate the reason I was unable to answer your previous question without knowledge of the Logos involved. To turn to your question, there were Logoi which chose to set the plan for the activation of mind/body/spirit complexes through each true color body without recourse to the prior application of free will. It is, to our knowledge, only in an absence of free will that the conditions of which you speak obtain. In such a procession of densities you find an extraordinarily long, as you measure time, third-density; likewise, fourth density. Then, as the entities begin to see the Creator, there is a very rapid, as you measure time, procession towards the eighth density. This is due to the fact that one who knows not, cares not.
Let us illustrate by observing the relative harmony and unchanging quality of existence in one of your, as you call it, primitive tribes. The entities have the concepts of lawful and taboo, but the law is inexorable and all events occur as predestined. There is no concept of right and wrong, good or bad. It is a culture in monochrome. In this context you may see the one you call Lucifer as the true light-bringer in that the knowledge of good and evil both precipitated the mind/body/spirits of this Logos from the Edenic conditions of constant contentment and also provided the impetus to move, to work and to learn.
Those Logoi whose creations have been set up without free will have not, in the feeling of those Logoi, given the Creator the quality and variety of experience of Itself as have those Logoi which have incorporated free will as paramount. Thusly you find those Logoi moving through the timeless states at what you would see as a later space/time to choose the free will character when elucidating the foundations of each Logos.
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I really see this as being metaphorical. Ra is using Biblical mythology here: the term "Edenic," and referring to "the knowledge of good and evil" (from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil), along with the mention of Lucifer. If we are to interpret this passage as referring to a literal Lucifer who offered these conditions, one would have to logically interpret the rest of the Biblical metaphorical terminology as literal - there was a literal Garden of Eden on Earth in which the two original humans, Adam and Eve, lived in harmonious conditions until eating literal fruit from a literal tree. And Lucifer was literally as he was described in the Bible. To say that Lucifer is as you described in the OP is already to interpret Lucifer as described in the Bible as a metaphor, so I think what we're doing is figuring out what interpretation of that metaphor makes more sense or fits best with the Law of One.
Ra's entire use of the Lucifer metaphor is couched in a less metaphorical description of how the Logoi have progressed through a series of experiments which then landed on the veil offering the ability to manifest the two polarities. They even talk about Logoi actively choosing to enact the "free will character," which is the implementation of the veil and the ability to polarize on the negative path.
It would be interesting to see how your original description in the OP would fit with Ra's description of how the sub-Logoi landed on using the veil and how it is implemented, if you do feel they are compatible.
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