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    10-14-2016, 12:19 AM
    (10-13-2016, 11:20 PM)octavia Wrote: Hi Anagogy,

    I believe an area of my difficulty in understanding this idea is that, as I have said, I am not totally clear on what is meant by alignment/unalignment & following/not following one's bliss, as these are not conceptual terms I am familiar with nor terms that have I seen used in this context before.

    To move closer toward the idea I desire to communicate, I will design a thought experiment. Let us suppose that an individual passes through the gateway of death via illness. Let us explore why this has occurred in the most abstract sense, without any contextual information, not even the nature of the illness itself. Has this individual's life ended because they were, as it is said, out of alignment? Or has this individual pre-incarnatively planned to end their exploration in this body at a certain age, the disease then, assisting in the fulfillment of this plan? Without more information, no appraisal can be made as such. For this reason, we may see the great difficulty in attempting to appraise the causes of all catalyst exclusively within the scope of an alignment/un-alignment model. This is especially true in the case of the catalyst known as sexual assault, for it is a catalyst that also requires an entity to act in a way that is not in accordance with the Law of One. The reason why we have chosen to refrain from offering any context is because we are attempting to convey the difficulties in the categorical appraisal of the causes of catalyst. Thus concludes the thought experiment.

    There are many mechanisms of learning and of service which bring about catalyst. One example we can give is the case study of AIDS as offered to us by Latwii. Latwii explains the concept of AIDS then, in the context of polarity and learning, not necessarily invoking the concept of the individual who is out of alignment. We bring this up not to dismiss the concept of alignment/unalignment but rather to attempt to display the great variety of mechanisms that bring about catalyst.

    Great questions octavia.

    Alignment simply means that desire and belief are in harmony with one another. To the degree that they are in harmony, you will translate that, vibrationally, as positive emotion, and the converse is true when they are not in harmony with one another. Alignment is simply the vibrational relativity between desire and belief.

    Have you ever seen a stage hypnotist? Have you seen the subjects, who have been programmed on stage before hand, react to posthypnotic suggestions after they awaken? For example, at the end of the show, the hypnotist might say a given phrase and the subject jumps up and claps their hands. This is extremely similar to how preincarnative plans are carried out. There are circumstances which trigger certain mental states, which creates the reality they desired to create prior to life. These patterns could be dissolved if one went to the trouble, but they function similarly to any other circumstances we create in our life.

    So in regards to your thought experiment regarding the cessation of physical life, it could be planned preincarnatively, or it could be disalignment, or it could simply be a desire to move on (in which case, the death would be getting "what is wanted" -- alignment). However, in all three of these circumstances, it was brought on by the thoughts/beliefs/focus. Preincarnative choices are not set in stone, they are just a momentum of thought that was set up before life. That chain of thought/momentum/karma can be altered if one becomes very conscious, though that is not the norm.  

    (10-13-2016, 11:20 PM)octavia Wrote: Here we will consider another example, as the story of Jesus Christ's life may be helpful here, although it is not a life we can claim to be terribly familiar with.



    Quote:17.17 Questioner: Can you tell me what the Orion group did in order to try to cause his downfall?
    Ra: I am Ra. We may describe in general what occurred. The technique was that of building upon other negatively oriented information. This information had been given by the one whom your peoples called “Yahweh.” This information involved many strictures upon behavior and promised power of the third-density, service-to-self nature. These two types of distortions were impressed upon those already oriented to think these thought-forms.

    This eventually led to many challenges of the entity known as Jesus. It eventually led to one, sound vibration complex “Judas,” as you call this entity, who believed that it was doing the appropriate thing in bringing about or forcing upon the one you call Jesus the necessity for bringing in the third-density planetary power distortion of third-density rule over others.

    This entity, Judas, felt that, if pushed into a corner, the entity you call Jesus would then be able to see the wisdom of using the power of intelligent infinity in order to rule others. The one you call Judas was mistaken in this estimation of the reaction of the entity, Jesus, whose teach/learning was not oriented towards this distortion. This resulted in the destruction of the bodily complex of the one known as Jesus to you.

    In other words, Jesus, being placed between "a rock and a hard place," refrained from indulging in negative polarity, and passed through the gateway of death on the cross. Thus when we look at the context of his choice, there would be no reason to characterize his suffering as unalignment in the slightest. On the contrary, the nature of his suffering could be characterized as a testament to the purity and fidelity of his intent to serve. The idea we wish to convey is the vast diversity of the causes, functions, and even service of catalyst that lies beyond the scope of alignment/unalignment.

    With all due respect, octavia, Ra has given us very little information about these circumstances involving Jesus, so we are really just shooting in the dark with this example, but I will offer you my interpretation based on my metaphysical understanding.

    Jesus was a human being. He wasn't all knowing, and was not perfect by any stretch of anyone's imagination, though I'm sure he was a great spiritual teacher. While I'm sure he knew much for his time, I doubt he truly understood the extent to which one creates their own reality, and even if he was aware of it to some extent, I don't believe he was a master of it -- but then, who is?

    From my perspective, the fact that he was even drawn into a circumstance where his disciple Judas would betray him was indicative of the fact that there was some degree of resistance present within him (which is perfectly human and normal -- I can't stress enough that 3rd density incarnates are practically asleep consciousness wise -- wanderer or not). I say this based on my understanding that were he in perfect alignment, the intelligent infinity within him would have prevented being sucked into any circumstance that would result in harm to him. The energy that creates worlds, and is connected to everything, would have been guiding and inspiring his every spontaneous and creative impulse. Of course, there is also the possibility that he didn't have a preference for what happened (I'm slightly less inclined to believe this but it must be acknowledged as a possibility).

    The problem is there is literally no example that could be brought up that can prove it one way or the other because you can never TRULY know the contents of anothers' mind. Thus, any example you bring up I can always just recourse to that fact, so it ultimately becomes pointless to find exceptions to the rule. It will never prove it one way or the other.

    We can really only know our own minds, and I can only say that I have seen my consciousness reflect itself into my experience. So at some point, you can only look within yourself to know whether this is true or not. I certainly don't blame anyone for not thinking its true. I didn't for a very long time.

    At some point in the spiritual journey, everyone will have to make a massive leap of faith to continue further towards intelligent infinity and unity. It is a fundamental and intrinsic aspect of how realities come into being (or perhaps I should say "back into Being").

    Faith is the "bridge" and "gateway".
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