10-04-2016, 04:49 AM
(This post was last modified: 10-04-2016, 05:29 AM by APeacefulWarrior.)
(10-04-2016, 02:37 AM)Ashim Wrote: Still do not agree. Ra refers to seven as "the gateway cycle", so during 7th density a group will not yet have traversed into the next octave.
Ra states in your quote above that they will "become" "one with all" at that level if their efforts are sufficient, so not only would the memory complex still be in tact but they would also be able to act as teachers to lower density groups and walk the universe with "unfettered tread".
But... how do you reconcile Ra saying that a 7D entity has "no memory, no identity, past, or future," while this Hathor group very specifically names themselves and almost immediately starts talking about their past? That's absolutely contradictory to Ra's description of 7D. Ra doesn't say these are things that will come with the Octave, he says that is the state of 7D. (The Octave\8D involves birthing a new cosmos and is The Creator's own next step in development.) Also, he never said anything in the materials I'm aware of claiming that 7D entities act as teachers. The "unfettered tread" line (in 48.10) wasn't said in direct reference to 7D either.
In the meantime, the idea that this Hathor group is using the 12-Density scale that some other channeled entities use allows the claim of them being "7D" to make perfect sense without completely contradicting what we've been told about 7th Density as Ra sees it.
Or, to put it another way, what reasons do you have for thinking this Hathor group has achieved cosmic oneness aside from the use of "7th Density"...? Is there something about their message or the contents therein which would lead you to believe they're a level more evolved, wise, and knowing than Ra is? I mean, we can quibble over Ra's somewhat-obscure wording all day, but that's what this still boils down to.
What specifically makes you believe Hathor is 7D by Ra's scale?