09-09-2016, 06:09 PM
(09-09-2016, 04:59 PM)APeacefulWarrior Wrote:Agree to disagree. I fully think that is ok though just different experiences, and perspectives.(09-09-2016, 04:11 PM)Glow Wrote: Green peace were basically environmental terrorists but no one was listening now the pendulum has swung back to the middle.
Hippies did the same for our value system that catered to only white upper class men.
I'm tired after a long day but I'm sure you can come up with other examples where extremes brought awareness to a situation that needed attention but not to the degree the extremist went.
I see this the same way.
The difference is, very few people are likely to destroy their lives and alienate all their friends and family from sheer paranoia, by being hippies smoking pot and enjoying free love. Conspiracy theories are very much a "playing with fire" situation, and it's very easy for people to get burned.
I also think you're giving Greenpeace a lot more credit than they're necessarily due. I'd wager Star Trek is ultimately far more responsible for the public at large becoming concerned with oceanic issues last generation than anything Greenpeace did. Which is the issue with Hollywood and the media. Sometimes they use their power responsibly, other times they don't.
Sure, it would be good if people on Facebook were less credulous and didn't blindly follow every trend that came along. But conspiracy theories just represent a different control system, and end up resulting in people like Alex Jones who are just as manipulative as the system they claim to fight. And in the meantime, for most people, if they weren't repeating gossip from TmZ, they'd be repeating gossip about their neighbors instead. It's a rather basic human trait that's been with us all of recorded history, and it wouldn't go away just because certain power structures vanished. Another extremely similar power structure would simply fill the vacuum left behind.
Most people are just fundamentally clannish, and there's always going to be something in life enabling such behavior. At least as long as people are living in 3D.
(And without outright defending the more noxious elements of the media, I'd suggest that the pacification effect it has is not entirely a bad thing. After all, there are far fewer wars in the world right now than pretty much any other time in history, and fewer violent crimes are being committed in most "westernized" countries than ever before as well. TV, as Howard Beale said, is in the boredom-killing business - and less boredom seems to also result in less people doing bad things to each other. If such a power structure were to go away, it would be very easy for a more openly harmful one to take its place.)

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